Posted on 06/16/2017 8:55:05 AM PDT by ebb tide
Thus, it must not be thought that in all cases of invalidly married relatives or friends, Catholics should completely ostracize and avoid them. Saint Paul, in one of the admonitions quoted above, commands Christians not to look upon sinners as enemies, but rather to admonish them as brothers.
And see how Catholics today are attacking that teaching, here on this forum?
That all changed when he divorced my mom back around 1955 and he was kicked out of the church.
What are you even talking about? Where does the 1957 teaching even suggest anything you are?
This is a Catholic Caucus. Are you a Catholic?
Is a marriage that is never consummated valid?
You’re talking about a post 1957 catechism. It’s worthless.
You were sincerely wondering whether stoning was left out? Really?
No I'm not.......does the nature of my real life experience preclude me from mentioning it on this forum?
If so, I apologize and will move on........
What in the heck is the difference between “severing all relations” and a “complete break”?
Even if it is possible, or by your view required, that all good Catholics board up their wedding-supporting businesses or quit their wedding-supporting jobs, then how happy will you be knowing that the only people in the wedding business have no conception of what true marriage is? How tragic is that?
I trust that your underground bunker has a sufficient supply of beans, bullets, bullion, and TP. Good luck with that until the anarchists suss you out.
I’m an engineer. And I don’t comprimise my religion or my soul for anything, including the government.
Do you believe a Catholic priest is obliged to perform a marriage ceremony for two dudes if the "state" demands it?
I am also upset that bakers have to bake cakes for gay "weddings", etc. but I have the luxury of not owning a bakery or working for a bakery.
These are all very tough questions because people have got to make a living and we are no longer living in a Christian nation. I really don't know what the answer is. I imagine it is something that can and must be decided on a case-by-case basis, but it certainly isn't easy.
Take the case of a Catholic baker. Some bakeries only survive because they make expensive cakes for special occasions such as wedding receptions. Most if not all of these Catholic bakers have at one time or another unknowingly made a cake for a couple of Catholics who were not validly married. I know of no bakers who go out of their way to ask anyone that comes in for a wedding cake if they are Catholic and if their marriage will be deemed valid in the eyes of the Church. Do you?
From what you've typed you would declare that all of these Catholic bakers are in danger of going to Hell. But if they did ask probing questions, as you imply they must, then they will no doubt be sued out of business. And what if it is a family owned business that they've run for decades?
Easy for you or me to tell them to just close shop and try and get a job as a greeter for Walmart.
I never implied asking probing questions.
Please stop making stuff up.
But I thought you explicitly disagreed with that point.
Or do you not understand the rules of logical inference?
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