Posted on 06/12/2017 2:08:06 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan
In light of current events, I wish to share a true story about a hermit from Loreto, Italy and the premonition he was given by God.
Well, I have one of those Pieta prayerbooks. It is a good one, and I don’t know if there are ten million copies, but there are many.
I don’t think that the evil will win out. I believe there are millions praying for the protection of Trump. Not so many prayers for the demonic lefties.
Donald J Trump is the best hope we have for helping the USA to come back to God. I don’t know if this video is a hoax or not, but what is more unbelievable than the flawed, but basically good man, DJT winning the election.
Donald Trump's Quest for Fame.
Donald Trump - The Echo of Our Framers' Uncorrupted President.
Pastor Kim Clement prophecy about ‘Donald Trump would be PRESIDENT’ in 2007! He had several other prophecies including two terms/8 years. All on U Tube.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFfFtq1fljY
The Pastor became ill about 2010, and died shortly after the election 2016. Every word will come to pass, and a lot has!
A must watch!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFfFtq1fljY
2007 prophecy about Trump as President! Several prophecies from Pastor Kim Clement about Trump later...and Hillary!
http://www.tfp.org/science-confirms-angels-took-the-house-of-our-lady-of-nazareth-to-loreto/
Born in Jerusalem, Mary was presented in the Temple and took a vow of virginity. Living in Nazareth, Mary was visited by the archangel Gabriel, who announced to her that she would become the Mother of Jesus, by the Holy Spirit.http://www.catholic.org/saints/saint.php?saint_id=4967
Ya'll need to get your story straight.
And then there are the prophecies of Mark Taylor.
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The birthplace of Mary is not a part of the teaching of the Catholic Church.
The “Holy House of Loreto” is pious tradition only. The claim is that angels moved the house to Italy well after the events described in the Bible, so there is no contradiction. Mythmaking, maybe, but no contradiction.
The birthplace of Mary is not a part of the teaching of the Catholic Church.
Well Arthur which is it?
You posted a statement about a "true story" and a link to a youtube video to substantiate your claim.
I post contradicting accounts from Roman Catholic sources of where Mary was born...one of which is the Catholic Encyclopedia online which is supposedly the most authoritative collection of Catholic teaching available.
And now when confronted with the contradiction you both run to the cover of "it's not part of the teaching of the Catholic church"
Campion even concedes this could be mythmaking.
Roman Catholicism never ceases to amaze with its contradictions and what is or is not "official" church teaching.
So which is it Arthur...true or not?
i just watched a documentary on the Loretto that is very convincing as a true story.
What is truly sad is your hatred for anything Mary or RC. One day you will have your Saul/Paul moment and will understand. Until then you should back off His Mother! But do know she loves you and she is your spiritual mother.
Catholics conflate exposing their false teachings as hatred. Mormons and Muslims do the same.
Mary is not our "spiritual mother". That's more false Roman Catholic teaching.
We are not called to love Mary nor pray to her or rely upon her as Roman Catholicism teaches.
We are called to love God and pray to Him and rely upon only Him as the Bible teaches.
The Catholic Church has no teaching regarding where Mary was born. Catholics are at liberty to believe Mary was born in Jerusalem, or Nazareth, or Cleveland, depending on their evaluation of the weight of the evidence.
The Catholic Encyclopedia is not a teaching document of the Magisterium of the Catholic Church. The sources of Catholic teaching are Scripture, the Liturgy, official Creeds, and documents explicitly intended to propose certain dogmas for belief by all Catholics.
A Catholic viewing this video is at liberty to believe or disbelieve the story of the hermit’s premonition, exactly like any other news story. Nothing in the video touches upon any teaching of the Catholic Church.
You are pretending to be scandalized because you are a bitter anti-Catholic, and you like to sow pretended “confusion” over pretended “inconsistencies.”
Yet you...a Roman Catholic priest says this is a true story.
Now you're saying it may or may not be true.
Sure sounds like you're advancing a false narrative.
The Catholic Encyclopedia is not a teaching document of the Magisterium of the Catholic Church.
Then the Catholic Encyclopedia is advancing a false narrative in what it claims to be.
Do you guys have anything, outside of the Bible, that is reliable?
You are pretending to be scandalized because you are a bitter anti-Catholic, and you like to sow pretended “confusion” over pretended “inconsistencies.”
And again proving my point that it is the Roman Catholic who is the first to go personal when the argument goes against them.
There are no pretended inconsistences.
One source says Nazareth in Mary's home town and another source says Jerusalem. Both were Roman Catholic sources.
I stand by what I said. It is one thing to not believe, but it is different to defame someone. You purposefully try to get others to hate Mary, just because YOU think she is unworthy of calling her your spiritual Mother.
I would rather say to the Lord that I loved His mother too much then that I spent a life time trying to get people to hate His mother.
Like I said, one day you will understand. But, just like Saul, it will be in God’s own time.
I know you think you have all the answers and that there should be a nice little neat scripture verse for everything we believe but we don’t believe in scripture alone. We have our tradition along with scripture. The funny part of your arguments are that you want it to be scripture alone, which is not biblical, but our belief in scripture and tradition is.
I’m not looking to argue, I’m just telling you to back off Mary. What does it prove to disparage her? My feelings for Mary take nothing away from Jesus. But you know this fact because we have had this same conversation over and over.
Nobody is trying to get anyone to hate Mary.
What we're trying to do is correct the false narratives Roman Catholics have built around Mary.
She is not our Advocate, Auxiliatrix, Adjutrix and Mediat rix as noted by the Roman Catholic Church.
Believers are not to devote themselves to her nor serve her. Believers are not to bow before the idols of her nor pray to her. Believers are not to rely upon her for salvation or hoping she will tell Jesus what to do and He will do it.
She was not sinless nor assumed into Heaven.
Every one of these claims of the RCC about Mary is disproven by Scripture and in numerous cases their own "Tradition".
To the contrary...Christians rightfully accord Mary what Luke recorded about her....she will be counted as blessed by all generations. Indeed, she was blessed to be the mother of Jesus.
I’m not looking to argue, I’m just telling you to back off Mary. What does it prove to disparage her? My feelings for Mary take nothing away from Jesus. But you know this fact because we have had this same conversation over and over.
I'm not backing off the false Roman Catholic narratives around Mary. She is not being disparaged by anyone save Roman Catholics who've built her up into a demi-goddess.
You may not change your mind and see the truth on this issue.
But there are a lot of people who read these threads who don't know exactly what the RCC teaches and what Christianity teaches regarding Mary...for there is a difference.
The Christian aims to be sure the Truth is told.
RC’s do not believe in a false narrative about Mary. It is true. I’m sorry but your opinion is not something I believe as truth. You have been shown many times the truth, but you and others have convinced yourselves of something that is not true about her.
I’m sorry you don’t see the beauty in having her as your spiritual mother. One day you will. Again, she loves you very much!
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