I’m not explaing my points to you well.
To obtain God’s grace, as you say, we must put our trust in God first, right?
Once they do this, do people slip back by their own bad choices of lost trust?
The original question was the efficacy of praying for others. Do you think it’s helpful for you to ask God to ensure others do put their trust in God, and keep it?
As a grandfather, I make this prayer almost daily, for my children and their spouses and the garndkids. I'm alive. I pary to The God Who IS. I don'tr not pray to persons who are dead, and sadly, I do not pray for salvation for dead relatives because their fate is ONLY in the purview of GOD ALMIGHTY once they die
I do not pray to dead people seeking their intervention. JESUS is Alive forevermore, so I pray through and to Him.
If you are a Catholic, has it ever entered your thoughts that your religion insists Mary was taken to Heaven without dying or taken bodily into Heaven and made alive there, so she can field millions of prays per minute, yet you are taught that you can pray to dead 'saints' believing they can intercede for you or those for whom you pray, even though they are no longer in the body? Why the special status for the Mother of Jesus when the Word of GOD is silent on these things? Does this ever make you wonder about the demigoddess status your religion has ascribed to the Mother of Jesus?
Essentially.
Once they do this, do people slip back by their own bad choices of lost trust?
Maybe they don't trust God as they should but that does not equate to loss of salvation.
NOBODY trusts God fully for everything.
Have you ever worried?
That's not trusting God.
Have you ever tried to figure out on your own how to deal with a situation?
That's not trusting God.
Our salvation does not depend on our ability to place continued trust in god. It depends on HIM forgiving us our sin, makings us new, born again, born from above, creatures in Christ Jesus, canceling the record of debt that stands against us, transferring us into the kingdom of the Son He loves, and sealing us with the promises Holy Spirit who is the GUARANTEE of our inheritance until the day we take possession of it.
2 Corinthians 5:17 Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation. The old has passed away; behold, the new has come.
Colossians 2:13-15 And you, who were dead in your trespasses and the uncircumcision of your flesh, God made alive together with him, having forgiven us all our trespasses, by canceling the record of debt that stood against us with its legal demands. This he set aside, nailing it to the cross.
He disarmed the rulers and authorities and put them to open shame, by triumphing over them in him.
Colossians 1:13-14 He has delivered us from the domain of darkness and transferred us to the kingdom of his beloved Son, in whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins.
Ephesians 4:30 And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, by whom you were sealed for the day of redemption.
Ephesians 1:13-14 In him you also, when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, and believed in him, were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit, who is the guarantee of our inheritanceuntil we acquire possession of it, to the praise of his glory.
Colossians 3:3 For you have died, and your life is hidden with Christ in God. When Christ who is your life appears, then you also will appear with him in glory.
1 Peter 1:3-5 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ! According to his great mercy, he has caused us to be born again to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead, to an inheritance that is imperishable, undefiled, and unfading, kept in heaven for you, who by God's power are being guarded through faith for a salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.
But only those still alive here on earth.