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To: imardmd1
It seems to me to be it would be more fitting to write that baptized Catholics who have left the Catholic Church have unfinished business with their initial baptism. Such former or wandering Catholics are thus drawn to any Catholic thread and often end up provoking their Catholic or Orthodox brethren with profane outbursts that insult that which is held to be sacred.

    Two definitions for "profane"

  1. Scriptural -- βέβηλος -- bébēlos (an adjective, derived from bainō, "go" and bēlos, "a threshold to enter a building") – properly, improper, unauthorized entry – literally, "crossing a threshold" which profanes because of improper entrance.

  2. Dictionary -- having or showing a lack of respect for God or holy things



370 posted on 05/11/2017 6:51:30 PM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: af_vet_1981
t seems to me to be it would be more fitting to write that baptized Catholics who have left the Catholic Church have unfinished business with their initial baptism.

Yeah. Paedobaptism might have made one a "Catholic," but water baptism in any form or at any time doesn't make one a Christian.

The "unfinished business" is that for one who has knowingly repented from a life of sin, who has fallen in trust on Jesus for salvation, and thereby received remission of sins and a new spiritual life, ought to then present him/herself to the elders of a local assembly for the rite of water-baptism for induction into the body of Christ as a willing member and as a disciple-in-training for life.

The old infant baptism of an unresistant uncomplying ignorant infantile subject means exactly nothing in the life or doctrine of a servant of Christ.

386 posted on 05/12/2017 4:56:30 AM PDT by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: af_vet_1981
t seems to me to be it would be more fitting to write that baptized Catholics who have left the Catholic Church have unfinished business with their initial baptism.

Yeah. Paedobaptism might have made one a "Catholic," but water baptism in any form or at any time doesn't make one a Christian.

The "unfinished business" is that for one who has knowingly repented from a life of sin, who has fallen in trust on Jesus for salvation, and thereby received remission of sins and a new spiritual life, ought to then present him/herself to the elders of a local assembly for the rite of water-baptism for induction into the body of Christ as a willing member and as a disciple-in-training for life.

The old infant baptism of an unresistant uncomplying ignorant infantile subject means exactly nothing in the life or doctrine of a servant of Christ.

Such persons are not "wandering Catholics"--they are misled humans who have come under saving faith through preaching of the genuine Gospel, and have found the Way to God through true unreserved personal commitment to His Son.

Their well-founded disgust with the failings of catholicity are not to be taken as "profane" without checking their provenance and the intent.

389 posted on 05/12/2017 5:06:42 AM PDT by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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