Free Republic
Browse · Search
Religion
Topics · Post Article

To: aMorePerfectUnion

So, you read the one that contain Maccabees, preserved in both the Septuagint and the Hebrew Scripture, as validated in the Dead Sea Scrolls?


37 posted on 05/10/2017 11:06:59 AM PDT by G Larry (There is no great virtue in bargaining with the Devil)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 31 | View Replies ]


To: G Larry
So, you read the one that contain Maccabees, preserved in both the Septuagint and the Hebrew Scripture, as validated in the Dead Sea Scrolls

I did, but don't the Apocrypha to be Scripture.

To add on a bit since it interests you... here is a quick summary.

Many non-biblical compositions were found in the Dead Sea Scrolls. That does not "validate" them as Scripture.
The Jews themselves did not accept the Apocrypha as Scripture.
Josephus and the Jewish teacher Philo of Alexandria (c 20 BC-AD 50) did not recognize the Apocrypha as Scripture - both Jews who knew the Jewish Canon.
Neither Jesus nor the New Testament writers ever quote the Apocrypha as Scripture.
Jerome, translator of the Latin Vulgate, rejected the Apocrypha as Scripture.
Gregory the Great, bishop of Rome from 590-604 AD rejected the book of 1 Maccabees as canonical in his commentary on the book of Job.

While we could go even more into depth, I think it serves little purpose on this thread.

Nor do I try to convince you.

I only note that I've made a studied decision and along with the Jews, scholars of the Jews, Jesus and the entire group of NT writers, Jerome, and Gregory, I reject the Apocryphal writings as Scripture.

In the meantime, the demonic apparition we are discussing on this thread and the teachings that have hurt so many Catholics is quite sad.

58 posted on 05/10/2017 12:51:33 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 37 | View Replies ]

To: G Larry
So, you read the one that contain Maccabees, preserved in both the Septuagint and the Hebrew Scripture, as validated in the Dead Sea Scrolls?

OOooops!


1 Maccabees is a book written in Hebrew by a Jewish author after the restoration of an independent Jewish kingdom by the Hasmonean dynasty, about the latter part of the 2nd century BC. The original Hebrew is lost and the most important surviving version is the Greek translation contained in the Septuagint. The book is held as canonical scripture by the Catholic, Orthodox, and Oriental Orthodox churches (except for the Orthodox Tewahedo), but not by Anglican and Protestant denominations. Such Protestants consider it to be an apocryphal book (see also Deuterocanon).

 In modern-day Judaism, the book is often of great historical interest, but has no official religious status.

 

 

Doctrinal issues that are raised in 2 Maccabees include:

 

Canonicity[edit]

Catholics and the Eastern Orthodox regard 2 Maccabees as canonical. Jews and Protestants do not. Based on (not necessarily reliable) copies,[10][11] 1 and 2 Maccabees appears in manuscripts of the Septuagint,[12] the Greek translation of the Hebrew Bible, which was completed by the 2nd century BC [13] along with (in some copies) 3 and 4 Maccabees and Psalm 151 which are considered apocryphal by the Roman Catholic church.[14] The Codex Vaticanus lacks 1 and 2 Maccabees (but includes 1 Esdras) which Codex Sinaiticus includes along with 4 Maccabees (but omits Baruch), which evidences a lack of uniformity in the lists of books in early manuscripts of the Septuagint.[15] Neither 1st nor 2nd Maccabees were found among the Dead Sea Scrolls.[16]

110 posted on 05/10/2017 4:01:23 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 37 | View Replies ]

Free Republic
Browse · Search
Religion
Topics · Post Article


FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson