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To: Luircin

So now you’ll explain how these verses don’t mean what they say?

Matt 6:14 For if you forgive others their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you; 15 but if you do not forgive others, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.

Matt 7:21“Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father in heaven.”

Ephesians 2:8 For by grace you have been saved through faith, and this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God— 9 not the result of works, so that no one may boast. 10 For we are what he has made us, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand to be our way of life.

1 Corinthians 9:27 but I punish my body and enslave it, so that after proclaiming to others I myself should not be disqualified.

James 1:22 But be doers of the word, and not merely hearers who deceive themselves. 23 For if any are hearers of the word and not doers, they are like those who look at themselves in a mirror;

James 2:14 What good is it, my brothers and sisters, if you say you have faith but do not have works? Can faith save you? 15 If a brother or sister is naked and lacks daily food, 16 and one of you says to them, “Go in peace; keep warm and eat your fill,” and yet you do not supply their bodily needs, what is the good of that? 17 So faith by itself, if it has no works, is dead.

James 2:18 But someone will say, “You have faith and I have works.” Show me your faith apart from your works, and I by my works will show you my faith. 19 You believe that God is one; you do well. Even the demons believe—and shudder. 20 Do you want to be shown, you senseless person, that faith apart from works is barren? 21 Was not our ancestor Abraham justified by works when he offered his son Isaac on the altar? 22 You see that faith was active along with his works, and faith was brought to completion by the works. 23 Thus the scripture was fulfilled that says, “Abraham believed God, and it was reckoned to him as righteousness,” and he was called the friend of God.

James 2:24 You see that a person is justified by works and not by faith alone. 25 Likewise, was not Rahab the prostitute also justified by works when she welcomed the messengers and sent them out by another road? 26 For just as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is also dead.


314 posted on 05/11/2017 10:14:08 AM PDT by G Larry (There is no great virtue in bargaining with the Devil)
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To: G Larry

I will when YOU address all the verses in post 292.

I’m not falling for your little game. You want to argue, then address my view too instead of demanding that I answer your cherry picked verses and then calling me stupid once I do. I’ve seen this play out too many times before.

Oh, and unfounded claims that they aren’t is not proof.

So do you want me to answer? I’ll address one verse for every verse you address.


315 posted on 05/11/2017 10:22:55 AM PDT by Luircin
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To: G Larry
Just to give you something constructive to do: you apparently haven't a clue the meaning of the verses you copied as your response; the verse from Matt 7:21 is answered by JESUS for your catholic mind, in John 6: 28Then they inquired, “What must we do to perform the works of God?” 29Jesus replied, “This is the work of God: to believe in the One He has sent."

The really sad thing about the catholiciism deranged mind is: such a blinded mind misses the point that JESUS didn't have a list of catholic things which GOD requires, so that religion, catholiciism, added a lengthy list, including devotion to the Mary of Catholicism.

316 posted on 05/11/2017 10:23:52 AM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensational perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: G Larry

And while you’re at it, a simple statement of what you’re trying to prove would be nice.


318 posted on 05/11/2017 10:30:30 AM PDT by Luircin
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To: G Larry
So now you’ll explain how these verses don’t mean what they say?
 
 

John 6:25-40

25 When they found him on the other side of the lake, they asked him, “Rabbi, when did you get here?”

26 Jesus answered, “Very truly I tell you, you are looking for me, not because you saw the signs I performed but because you ate the loaves and had your fill. 27 Do not work for food that spoils, but for food that endures to eternal life, which the Son of Man will give you. For on him God the Father has placed his seal of approval.”

28 Then they asked him, “What must we do to do the works God requires?”

29 Jesus answered, “The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent.”

30 So they asked him, “What sign then will you give that we may see it and believe you? What will you do? 31 Our ancestors ate the manna in the wilderness; as it is written: ‘He gave them bread from heaven to eat.’[c]

32 Jesus said to them, “Very truly I tell you, it is not Moses who has given you the bread from heaven, but it is my Father who gives you the true bread from heaven. 33 For the bread of God is the bread that comes down from heaven and gives life to the world.”

34 “Sir,” they said, “always give us this bread.”

35 Then Jesus declared, “I am the bread of life. Whoever comes to me will never go hungry, and whoever believes in me will never be thirsty. 36 But as I told you, you have seen me and still you do not believe. 37 All those the Father gives me will come to me, and whoever comes to me I will never drive away. 38 For I have come down from heaven not to do my will but to do the will of him who sent me. 39 And this is the will of him who sent me, that I shall lose none of all those he has given me, but raise them up at the last day. 40 For my Father’s will is that everyone who looks to the Son and believes in him shall have eternal life, and I will raise them up at the last day.”


364 posted on 05/11/2017 6:41:41 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: G Larry

Please cite the version you are quoting from.


383 posted on 05/12/2017 3:03:24 AM PDT by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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