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To: Fedora

That was an interesting answer. I had to think about it. Having done so, here is my response.

If Jesus intended to stick with a physically-centered system of worship, and He merely meant to shift that center from Jerusalem to Rome, then He fundamentally and tragically misled the Samaritan woman. She asked specifically where worship should take place. Anyone who imagines this wasn’t a sincere question just isn’t reading the text. The moment the woman realized she was dealing with a prophet, she took the occasion to ask Him a fundamentally vital question.

There is no way on earth the woman could have listened to Jesus’ answer and divined the word, ‘Rome.’ If ‘Rome,’ was the correct answer, then Jesus outright lied to her. He said one thing, but meant another. No one reading His answer, right down to the present day, could arrive at the conclusion that He was telling the woman that the system of location-centered worship would continue; it would merely shift to Rome. For the first and only time in His earthly ministry, Jesus would have been guilty of intentionally misleading an honest questioner.

None of your examples parallel this situation. You mentioned the Road to Emmaus. Jesus didn’t use the entire walk to explain that the Christ was NOT to be crucified, and then rise on the third day. Rather, He cited OT Scripture to enlighten the disciples, and concluded by revealing His true identity. This bears no resemblance to telling the woman that worship henceforth will be based on spirit and truth, if what He meant was that in the future it would be Rome-centric. One is a progressive revelation, the other is an outright deception.

Put yourself in the woman’s place. Imagine that you’ve discovered yourself in the presence of a true prophet. Imagine yourself jumping on the opportunity to have a spiritually crucial question answered. How would you feel if Jesus’ answer was, “in spirit and truth,” if the actual answer was, ‘Rome,’? Can you honestly say you wouldn’t feel betrayed, misled and lied to?

I would feel bitterly betrayed. I ask honest, straightforward questions. I respect and appreciate honest, straightforward answers. If someone jerks me around by telling me A, when the actual answer is B, I’m angry, and I never trust that person again. If a person cannot or will not tell me the truth, why should I care about anything they say?


109 posted on 04/29/2017 8:41:57 PM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Fantasywriter

I’ll have to come back to this another day because of the amount of time I’ve spent on this thread today, but meanwhile, briefly, I am certainly not suggesting Jesus misled the Samaritan woman! I am saying that I think he was addressing a different topic than the one we’re debating here. Also, I think the woman had a sincere question, but she also had some incorrect assumptions Jesus is challenging her to reconsider. Thank you for your own sincere response. May God bless you in your study of Scripture and your walk with the Lord.


111 posted on 04/29/2017 10:03:07 PM PDT by Fedora
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To: Fantasywriter
Put yourself in the woman’s place.

That can be dangerous; trying to see something from another's point-of-view.

Better to stay with what you've been taught by faith producing teachers.

230 posted on 04/30/2017 5:08:57 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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