[aMorePerfectUnion]

af, please. The whole chapter is a collection of parables aimed at the pharisees.

Even if you overlook the context to try to prove your claim, you are left with two people who died - one in a good place and one in a bad place can talk to each other and to God.

This does not prove anything about living people on earth communicating with departed saints in heaven.

[af_vet_1981]

af, please. The whole chapter is a collection of parables aimed at the pharisees. Even if you overlook the context to try to prove your claim, you are left with two people who died - one in a good place and one in a bad place can talk to each other and to God.

I understand that some think this is all a fable. I take the Messiah at His word, that these people were real, that the Jew, the thieves, the Levite, and the good Samaritan were real. I do not believe Jesus made them up to tell a fable.

This does not prove anything about living people on earth communicating with departed saints in heaven.

Post 61 shows the Jew prayed to "Father Abraham": are you now going to claim Abraham is not a departed saint in heaven ?

Then he said, I pray thee therefore, father, that thou wouldest send him to my father's house: For I have five brethren; that he may testify unto them, lest they also come into this place of torment.