I ask, please, for your prayers for me and my collaborators, who until Friday will be on retreat.
— Pope Francis (@Pontifex) March 5, 2017
Posted on 03/05/2017 3:29:44 PM PST by ebb tide
“Collaborators” is not a word normally associated with being on retreat. Even if it is not a silent retreat, it’s still a strange word, because it suggests the creation of something new. Such is normally the end product of a collaboration. It also suggests a closed group working together toward a desired result. It is strongly horizontal language, which seems at odds with what should be a transcendent experience.
I checked the Italian handle to see if maybe it was a translation er….. nope.
So should we start girding ourselves for some further development of nuChurch next weekend? The Second Sunday of Lent is the Transfiguration. Perhaps a little faux nouveau dogme? “See, I wear white, just like Jesus! I get to deny His true words and replace them with my own.”
Here are some visuals that “collaboration” brings to mind. I can’t help it.
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Any idea who Francis is retreating/collaborating with? Probably the new head of the Pontificate for the Doctrine of the Faith (I probably have the title wrong - Cardinal Ratzinger held the post for quite a while), Cardinal Daneels, ... probably a few more revolutionaries ...
I suspect his collaborators are those with whom he has been recently meeting with in Domus Sanctae Marthae regarding revising the Holy Mass as Francis envisions it.
Collaborators just means coworkers. There’s plenty enough to be disturbed about in this papacy without this kind of silliness.
B.S.
col·lab·o·rate
verb
work jointly on an activity, especially to produce or create something.
“he collaborated with a distinguished painter on the designs”
synonyms: co-operate, join forces, team up, band together, work together, participate, combine, ally;
More
cooperate traitorously with an enemy.
“the indigenous elite who collaborated with the colonizers”
synonyms: collude, conspire, fraternize, co-operate, consort, sympathize; informalbe in cahoots
“they collaborated with the enemy”
But regardless, using your definition, who has collaborators on Catholic reteats? Who are you “working with” on you your retreats?
"I will try to go deep into the Jesus that the disciples saw and followed," he said. "So there will be a reflection on the humanity of Jesus," as well as a meditation on relationships.
Most importantly, the retreat "will be a time of restoration," Fr. Michelini said. "We will quit working, talking, doing the usual things that the Pope, Bishops and Cardinals, and households do."
Second it.
Thank you.
The retreat is for the Pope “and the Papal household.” I.e., those who collaborate with him.
Like, the Pope is going to go out of his way to word his statement so as to SIGNAL that he’s up to mischief!
Traddies CAN be paranoid kooks at times.
When I hear stuff like “a reflection on the humanity of Jesus” my admittedly knee-jerk reaction is: Uh-oh. We’re gonna “reflect” through our narrow little mirror, on what a regular guy Jesus was.
The washing of the feet? It was really about archaic customs and hygiene; humility is too esoteric a discussion for us mere mortals.
The scourging? Nailed on a cross? Yee ouch! That musta hurt. Best not dwell on that!
Etc. etc.
Yeah. I’d rather reflect on His divinity, and ponder the mystery of God Who chose to dwell among us, and suffered so horribly for us and because of us. I can never figure it out, but I never get tired of wondering about it.
I see you’ve already stopped ignoring my posts.
No self-restraint, eh?
No. It includes others: "The idea of asking for a contribution to other people is perhaps a path "unexplored and never traveled," says the friar, "but I wanted to present to the Pope the concrete reading of the Gospel as well as the experience of a couple and a contemplative."
The treacherous connotation is in English, perhaps not in the language used here.
You've got to be kidding. In one his infamous airplane interviews, this on on his way back from the 2013 World Yute Day in Rio, the pope said this:
But also a parenthesis the Orthodox have a different practice. They follow the theology of what they call oikonomia, and they give a second chance, they allow it. But I believe that this problem and here I close the parenthesis must be studied within the context of the pastoral care of marriage.
Sure enough, after two of his SinNods rejected such a notion, Bergoglio goes renegade cowboy with his heretical Amoris Laetitia.
Read the article and click on the link to the Italian link to the pope’s tweet. There’s nothing treacherous in the connotation/translation.
Like his recent trial ballons of intercommunion with non-catholics?
He has a history of such behavior. Well-established pattern at this point. Hides his upcoming ventures in plain view (makes baiting statements to the press, in "homilies" at Casa Santa Marta, on airplanes, etc., often accompanied by a nasty smirk). Finds it a source of amusement, perhaps?
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I agree with you.Bergoglio and his minions are collaborating again?He hasn’t a chance and the game is up for his Vat 11 on steroids Nu -Church!He is meeting -not on retreat -his co-horts to face the fact that his Devilish plans are being extinguished in front of his face.