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To: chuckles
What about it is interpreted wrong? Calling names is just admitting failure. Take and issue and define where it’s wrong.

calling names????? you're the one who called the Catholic church the whore of Babylon...and your interpretations seem very "new age" and simplistic. The Catholic church was started by Christ, on His disciples, and is over 2,000 years old, The Protestant revolution is about 400 years old and the reason it is called protestant is because they were protesting a 1,600 year old religion that they decided was wrong.....There are thousands of Protestant "denominations", all of which think that they are the right one.....we don't all get to make up our own concepts of what reality is, and that's just what they have done.

65 posted on 03/02/2017 8:51:38 PM PST by terycarl (COMMON SENSE PREVAILS OVERALL!!!!)
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To: terycarl
No, I didn't call it the Whore of Babylon, John the Revelator did by inspiration of the Holy Spirit.

In the Bible, "women" are churches, denominations, or religions. Starting in Rev 17:2, the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her. What country on the planet doesn't have a history with the RCC? Fornication, adultery, and sexual sin, in Scripture represents idol worship, false teaching, and blasphemy. Adherents to her doctrine are "drunk" with the wine of her fornication because they are unable to see reality due to the fog they live in their dogma and not the doctrine of Scripture. Verse 6 speaks of being drunk with the blood of the saints and martyrs and John marveled in amazement. He was amazed that a church that claimed Christ would be guilty of murdering more Saints and martyrs than even the enemies of Christ. The RCC has murdered more Christians than any other group in history. Vs 9-Rome is the city on 7 hills. Vs 15 refers to every nation of the world having RCC influence in it. Vs 16, 10 countries will go against the harlot and eat her flesh( Rev 2:20 is the RCC) ( read the story of Jezebel in 2 Kings and how she ended up in the valley if Jezreel, or Armageddon in Greek.) Vs 18 again refers to the universal denomination over the earth.

Chapter 18 has more about the world being drunk on her fornication, but verse 4 chp 18 calls for Christians to come out of her before it's too late. At some point Christians will have to decide to follow Christ or the RCC. You cannot be double minded and please God. You can follow tradition or follow Christ. By defending the RCC, you are showing you are drunk and can't discern reality. RCC's are more defensive of their dogma than Christ.

1Peter 5:13 says Babylon greets you with a kiss. Where was Peter when he wrote this? ..Rome!

The church was started by Christ, that is true, but it wasn't the RCC. I gave you the undeniable history of the first church. James, the brother of Jesus led the church after Jesus ascended. Mathew 16:13-20 shows that in order to be a born again Christian, one must have the identity of Christ revealed to them from heaven. It has nothing to do with Peter other than he was the example Jesus used to explain what the church was. Peter was not made pope. There are no popes in Scripture. In order to be a child of God, the Holy Spirit must reveal to you that Jesus is the Christ and there is no other name under heaven to be saved and that includes the RCC or any other man made device on earth. The RCC did not exist until ~300 AD when Constantine formed it. The church Jesus started would look more like a Messianic Jewish congregation.

You look at everything from a perspective of catholic or protestant. The Bible looks at this as Christian or Babylon. If a Lutheran church is not Christ like, they are left behind to suffer the Beast. We, as individuals are the church, not the building we meet in. The letters to the churches in Revelation are written to individuals not denominations. Are you dead to God as the Sardis church was? Have you lost your first love as the Ephesians? Most to day, are Laodicean,..or lukewarm. The church at Thyatira is written to Catholics. It guarantees being left behind to face the Tribulation if they don't change.

All any Protestant asks is that you would reevaluate you beliefs and why you believe what you believe and back it up with Scripture. I'm not a denominational guy. After 23 years of study of Scripture, I'm just telling you what I believe through reading Scripture. If you choose to continue defending the RCC rather than Christ, that's your choice. 1Ti_2:5 For there is one God and one Mediator between God and men, the Man Christ Jesus,

Mary and the Apostles are not involved. We are a royal priesthood and saints. We don't need Rome to vote us in.

1Ti 4:1 Now the Spirit expressly says that in latter times some will depart from the faith, giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons, 1Ti 4:2 speaking lies in hypocrisy, having their own conscience seared with a hot iron, 1Ti 4:3 forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from foods which God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and know the truth.

Forbidding to marry is "doctrines of demons". Eating fish on Friday was a made up tradition that comes from a demon. Everything that goes in your mouth is good if it's blessed by God. It's not what goes into your mouth but what comes out that defiles a man.

There are literally hundreds of more verses routinely forgotten by the RCC. The biggest might very well be the Eucharist. When Jesus said you must eat my flesh and drink my blood or you have no part of me, the RCC came up with some voodoo practice to accomplish this impossibility. What Jesus really was saying is you must be guilty of my murder, or you can't partake of My saving Grace. To deny you had anything to do with His death means you have no sin and are self righteous and do not need a Savior. When we take the cracker and grape juice, we are admitting we need His sacrifice and honor His work on the cross. It doesn't need to be changed into the actual flesh of Christ and blood of Christ. That is eating flesh sacrificed to some idol spoken of in Rev 2:20.

Just one more thing to think about,...If you believe the RCC will stand against the gates of Hades as in Mat 16:18, how do you explain Daniel 7:21 and Rev 13:7? The saints are overcome by the Beast in these verses. Obviously the church spoken of in Matthew and Revelation are different saints. If the church at Thyatira is guaranteed to be left behind for the Beast, then The church formed in Matthew 16 is a different church than what is "left behind" in Revelation. You are literally staking you and your family's life on a correct interpretation of Matthew 16.

I'm not an expert on everything the RCC's believe, but don't they teach that Revelation already happened in 70AD? Revelation was written around ~90+AD. Why did John write Revelation 1:3 as prophesy?

Rev 1:3 Blessed is he who reads and those who hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written in it; for the time is near.

The time is near! I would make it priority one to make sure I understood and was able to prove what I believed. When standing before God, Telling Jesus this is what the RCC taught us won't cut it for an excuse. Satan came to Eve in the Garden and twisted what God said to get her to sin. When Jesus was tempted in the wilderness, Satan came to Jesus and twisted God's Word to temp Him. He was able to speak Scripture back to him to send Satan away.

Jesus told us how Judgement Day would pan out.

John 12:48 He who rejects Me, and does not receive My words, has that which judges him--the word that I have spoken will judge him in the last day. If you worship idols, if you pray to dead people and icons, if you practice the occult, you are choosing the RCC over Christ and will be judged by God's Word.

I hope you read this and take it seriously. I believe God takes it seriously. God bless.

66 posted on 03/03/2017 12:12:56 PM PST by chuckles
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To: terycarl
.....There are thousands of Protestant "denominations", all of which think that they are the right one.....

You are losing your touch!

Isn't it 30,000?

Or 50,000

or 80,000 like you USED to post?

103 posted on 03/05/2017 3:38:07 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: terycarl
...they were protesting a SCREWED UP 1,600 year old religion ...

That John wrote about in the last book of the BIBLE!

7 CATHOLIC 'churches' teaching all manner of; shall we say; CRAP!

104 posted on 03/05/2017 3:40:03 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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