Posted on 02/11/2017 6:41:06 AM PST by searchinsany
John received the Revelation prior to AD 70, to encourage and prepare the Church for the events leading to the vision's imminent fulfillment. I believe therefore, Christ's second coming described in the Revelation took place during the ‘great and the dreadful day of the Lord’ in AD 70. On that 'day' of judgement, Old Covenant Israel ended with the destruction of the temple and Jerusalem; the remaining survivors of the Jewish nation were enslaved and dispersed throughout the Roman Empire. Futurists, Dispensationalism in particular, adamantly oppose this view by insisting on a post-AD 70 date, in an attempt to refute Preterism. However, the AD 95 date is heavily dependent on the writings of certain Church Fathers, primarily a 2nd century quotation taken from the writing of Irenaeus, found in the works of Eusebius, Book 5, and Chapter 8.
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Rediculous assertion not supported by historians or science
“No????? OK, then, the Messiah did NOT come in 70”
What then is the rebuttal, searchinsany?
Those that hold to the pretrist, and/or the Postmillennialist view point or any similar viewpoint do not hold to a literal 1000 years, the hold that 1000 was the largest number the Romans had and would use the word for 1000 or any amount bigger then a 1000, as a mom might tell a teenager "I told you a 1000 times, pick your clothes up off your floor" or some other commend, it doesn't mean the mom has told them 999 + 1 but more then a 1000 times.
Even Better position.
THAT is the Good News.
Thanks be to God for His indescribable Gift!
Satan existed then and he exists now, but we have been inoculated by the blood of J
Amen.
If all was fulfilled in 70 AD, why is the Revelation 12:1-2 sign in the heavens happening this year on September 23-24?
Wasn’t much of a covenant if it ended, was it? What makes you think that He won’t end your new covenant and replace it with something else? That is certainly what Islam teaches. My understanding was that God never changes.
His commitment to false theology demanded he reason it so...
"Robinson was considered a major force in shaping liberal Christian theology. Along with Harvard theologian Harvey Cox, he spearheaded the field of secular theology and, like William Barclay, he was a believer in universal salvation.[4]"
From his Wikipedia biography.
It would have been helpful for revelation to have been written in plain language.
Hope you don’t mind my using that line - it’s brilliant!
God bless.
Theology and forensics are two different things; Robinson used the latter to show the dates of the NT books.
Hilarious. Thanks for the laugh. Needed a lift today
And a question;:
Why wasn’t dispensationalism (Darby, etc) taught before the 1880’s?
And the answer is that it was - as has been documented on FR many times. Search.
Beyond that, and more importantly, all that matters is in God’s inspired Word.
“Robinson used the latter...”
... to justify his preexisting belief. As a liberal scholar, he also justified universal salvation.
Where is the rebuilt Temple on the Temple Mount in Jerusalem?
Where are our (those in Christ) new resurrected bodies?
When were these first taught?:
7 year tribulation
Believers being evacuated prior to the tribulation’s start
1290 days
Daniels 70th week
Israel being re-established
Temple rebuilt
Countries north of, and East of, Israel invading
To all on this thread:
Does it bother any of you that the Angels screwed our women?
They haven’t been “right” since.
And as far as I know, the Angels have never apologized.
Robinson’s preterist view was not just held by him, there were many many others.
Luther, Knox, Calvin, the theologians in the 1600’s & 1700’s before Darby.
Plus the Roman Catholics before and during those times.
In Lutheran catechism class, church, and Sunday school, we were taught that time runs from Creation till Judgement Day.
No Israel restored, temple rebuilt, 7 year tribulation, etc. that I mentioned above.
“When were these first taught?:”
In the books of Scripture.
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