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Pope yet again derides defenders of Church teaching as not like Christ
Life Site News ^ | January 12, 2017 | Lisa Borne

Posted on 01/12/2017 5:57:27 PM PST by ebb tide

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1 posted on 01/12/2017 5:57:27 PM PST by ebb tide
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"that “doctors of the law” were incoherent, hypocritical, clericalist, and lacking in real authority."

Some truth there.

"Christ’s authority was derived from His service and proximity to people and the fact “he was coherent,” the pope said in his morning Mass homily at Casa Santa Marta."

Christ's authority was derived from His Godhood.

2 posted on 01/12/2017 6:03:04 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: ebb tide

For the record, I lived in the Rockford Diocese, but spent time with people from the Lacrosse, WI diocese from when Cardinal Burke was their bishop. He IS a man of the people, getting personally involved when necessary, with both Truth and a kind heart.

He also writes and speaks in a very coherent manner. Perhaps Pope Francis has someone else in mind.


3 posted on 01/12/2017 6:08:16 PM PST by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: ebb tide
But his frequent and repeated derision of doctors of the law and Pharisees closely resembled negative assessments he has leveled at Orthodox Catholics at all echelons with ever-increasing frequency.

Aren't "doctors of the law" preferable to torches and pitchforks?

4 posted on 01/12/2017 6:08:45 PM PST by BlatherNaut
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Exactly.

“Christ’s authority was derived from His service and proximity to people and the fact “he was coherent,” the pope said in his morning Mass homily at Casa Santa Marta.”

That statement seems very close to a rejection of God to me.

It smacks of secularism.


5 posted on 01/12/2017 6:10:21 PM PST by marktwain
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To: ebb tide

Never mind what man says. Jesus says,”If you continue in My Word, then you are My disciples indeed. And you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.”(John 8:31)


6 posted on 01/12/2017 6:21:35 PM PST by txrefugee
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To: ebb tide

Pope Commodus ...

Is he NOT merciful?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGVIwRLC3bQ


7 posted on 01/12/2017 6:27:20 PM PST by stisidore (Mmm, let's see here)
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To: ebb tide

Sounds like Frankie the idiot pope is starting to lose it.


8 posted on 01/12/2017 6:31:54 PM PST by AlaskaErik (I served and protected my country for 31 years. Progressives spent that time trying to destroy it.)
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To: marktwain
"It smacks of secularism."

Agreed. Not to mention some historic heresies!

9 posted on 01/12/2017 6:32:02 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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ebb tide :" The remarks demonstrate a pattern of verbal assaults on orthodox Catholics so well established that a list titled “The Pope Francis Little Book of Insults” was compiled in recent years. "

According to the "New Baltimore Catechism" that I grew up with, we are here :" to know, love, and serve God in this world, and in the next."
We are taught that there was a war between the angels in heaven, between the angels of Light, and the angels of Darkness, who chose to follow Satan.
The losing angels of Darkness became 'fallen angels', who then rule this mortal existence; so war is not unknown to the Heavenly hosts.
One of the basic eternal precepts of the Gospel is "Free Agency", that is, the ability to choose: choose between good vs. evil, right vs. wrong, sacred vs. sinful, etc.,etc..
Islam (translated as "Submission") is a geo-political plan of war and conquest, allows no choice, either convert or face physical death, and makes slaves of survivors.
Since there was war in the heavens, should we expect anything less in this mortal existence, against those who would have us violate that eternal precept, and take away free agency ?
Many of us have learned "to be in the world, but not a part of it", that is, to live a sacred life rather than to join in a hedonistic, barbaric lifestyle(ie.:" A Pillar of Salt").
If I am to be considered by the Pope as orthodox and an anachronism to modern Catholicism, then, so be it !
I can be concerned and love my fellow man, even if he be Islamic, but my free agency allows my conscience to not accept his sinful barbaric behavior,
and led by a false prophet who plagiarized sections of both the Old and New Testament in a failed attempt to obtain new converts.
My conscience and free agency allows me to go to war over compulsive conversion to barbaric behavior
since war is already known in the heavens and is already too well known on earth.
I don't need a religious Marxist, social justice warrior to define me as orthodox; I have core values that are unalterable and unchangeable despite my mortal existence.

10 posted on 01/12/2017 6:46:45 PM PST by Tilted Irish Kilt (Muslim & Spanish migrants are like Kudzu-> designed to overload the system= Cloward-Piven)
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Heh. Not a traditionalist alive that doesn’t consider themselves theological wizards and canon law mavens,


11 posted on 01/12/2017 6:47:56 PM PST by WriteOn (Truth)
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To: txrefugee
txrefugee :" Never mind what man says.
Jesus says,”If you continue in My Word, then you are My disciples indeed. And you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.”(John 8:31)"

thank you for that ..
You just said in those two sentences that which took me more than a paragraph to say.
Obviously, the scriptures are more eloquent than I am.

12 posted on 01/12/2017 6:54:26 PM PST by Tilted Irish Kilt (Muslim & Spanish migrants are like Kudzu-> designed to overload the system= Cloward-Piven)
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To: ebb tide
Christ’s authority was derived from His service and proximity to people and the fact “he was coherent,” the pope said in his morning Mass homily at Casa Santa Marta.

Catch that? Authority comes not from above but from below.....it is the people who confer authority.

On the contrary, Jesus makes it plain that his power (authority) comes from on high:

And Jesus coming, spoke to them, saying: All power is given to me in heaven and in earth Matt 28: 18

The Godhead shone through him in his miracles, in his preaching and his teaching. As for "coherence", that's funny coming from Francis, the incoherent, ranting, potty-mouth pope.

13 posted on 01/12/2017 7:00:33 PM PST by marshmallow
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The doctors of the law considered themselves princes, the pope said, and they are the opposite of Christ, who had authority, was coherent, and close to people.

Look who's talking.......

14 posted on 01/12/2017 7:08:33 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: ebb tide

http://www.economist.com/news/americas/21657401-franciss-balancing-act-latin-america-peronist-pope


15 posted on 01/12/2017 7:35:03 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (President Trump is coming, and the rule of law is coming with him.)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
“the head is the one who serves, who turns everything upside down, like an iceberg.”

This reminds me of what St. Ignatius once said, the corruption of the best is the worst. Nothing so bad as a fallen Jesuit.

But the reference to turning things upside down is very troubling, as it typically belongs to the domain of the satanists, who invert the cross (peace symbol), who invert the symbol of man, who ascribe to the so-called “law of correspondences”, who worship the creature rather than the Creator.

I think this Pope's tenure might not be tenable if he continues on this path.

The thing that is refreshing is the confirmation that the last 50 years has been a total theological scam perpetrated by Fabian socialist Freemason Alinskyites inside the fold. Think of the Four Cardinals as a pack of Great Pyrenees going after the wolves.

16 posted on 01/12/2017 7:45:03 PM PST by blackpacific
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To: marktwain

It is and that is my problem with him too. Jesus is God and this Pope is leading many to hell with their “works will get them to heaven” message.


17 posted on 01/12/2017 7:49:42 PM PST by ssfromla
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To: ebb tide

“And I am the pope, I do not need to give reasons for any of my decisions. I have decided that they have to leave and they have to leave.”
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The fake Pope is destroying the Church and resents interference.


18 posted on 01/12/2017 8:09:31 PM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents)
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To: blackpacific
But the reference to turning things upside down is very troubling, as it typically belongs to the domain of the satanists, who invert the cross (peace symbol), who invert the symbol of man, who ascribe to the so-called “law of correspondences”, who worship the creature rather than the Creator.

“Satan Must Reign in the Vatican. The Pope Will Be His Slave.”

"The bold proclamation in the headline of this article was personally witnessed by St. Maximilian Kolbe, who watched Freemasons celebrate their bicentennial in St. Peter’s Square in 1917. St. Maximilian Kolbe saw banners bearing these words amidst the revelry..."

Third Secret of Fatima Documentary: The Third Secret Foretells “A Pope Under the Control of Satan”

Interestingly, the centenary of the Fatima "Miracle of the Sun" falls on Friday 13th, 2017. Good versus evil.

19 posted on 01/12/2017 8:13:53 PM PST by BlatherNaut
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To: ssfromla

“So faith also, if it have not works, is dead in itself.” (James 2:17)


20 posted on 01/12/2017 8:17:07 PM PST by BlatherNaut
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