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To: Elsie

“St. Paul tells the Corinthians, that he is their only spiritual Father:

Then why; against what MATTHEW wrote; do you once again call OTHER men Father?”

Ask Saint Paul:

St. Paul tells the Corinthians, that he is their only spiritual Father: If you have 10,000 instructors in Christ, yet not many Fathers.

1 Corinthians iv. 14,15)

[14] I write not these things to confound you; but I admonish you as my dearest children. [15] For if you have ten thousand instructors in Christ, yet not many fathers. For in Christ Jesus, by the gospel, I have begotten you.

Perhaps Saint Paul who allowed for himself and others to be called “father”, along with the Catholic Church) had a better idea of what Jesus was conveying in the Matthew 23 discourse than the Protestants.

You could also ask FR poster “ealgeone” who calls the early church fathers the ECF’s. Does he have a problem with early church fathers being called so without condemning its use?


237 posted on 01/09/2017 4:42:06 PM PST by Repent and Believe (The Son of Man, when He cometh, shall He find, think you, faith on earth? Jesus Christ (Luke 18:8))
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To: Repent and Believe; Elsie
The context of the usage of Father in Matthew and 1 Corinthians 4:14-15 determines the proper understanding.

Please also see Matthew 15:4-5 in relation to Matthew 23 for comparison.

242 posted on 01/09/2017 5:22:28 PM PST by ealgeone
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To: Repent and Believe
Perhaps Saint Paul who allowed for himself and others to be called “father”,

Perhaps?

Perhaps you FAIL to show any scripture where anyone actually DOES call him "father".

286 posted on 01/10/2017 3:28:33 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Repent and Believe
Perhaps Saint Paul who allowed for himself and others to be called “father”,

Perhaps?

Perhaps you FAIL to show any scripture where anyone actually DOES call him "father".

287 posted on 01/10/2017 3:28:42 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Repent and Believe
You could also ask FR poster “ealgeone” who calls the early church fathers the ECF’s. Does he have a problem with early church fathers being called so without condemning its use?

Fight your own battle.

288 posted on 01/10/2017 3:29:20 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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