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Vatican official disapproves of Cardinals questioning Francis, says Pope’s ... must obey him
Life Site News ^ | December 19, 2016 | Jan Bentz

Posted on 12/20/2016 1:30:23 PM PST by ebb tide

A Vatican administrator disagrees with the action taken by the four Cardinals who asked Pope Francis for clarification about certain aspects in Amoris Laetitia regarding the sacraments for remarried divorced Catholics.

“As the Pope’s humble collaborator, I feel I have a duty to loyally tell him what I think when a decision is being taken — Once it is taken, I obey the Holy Father fully,” Archbishop Angelo Becciu, the Minister of Internal Affairs, said in an interview with Vatican Insider.

Becciu, who was appointed to his office by Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI in 2011, commented that the Pope is rather unfazed by the situation, contrary to other reports that say Francis is “boiling with rage.”

“The Pope is a very peaceful man, he is always good-spirited but obviously, every form of division causes him distress and pain,” Archbishop Becciu said.

The four Cardinals made a bold step in publishing their letter, but it has yet to receive an answer or comment from Pope Francis. While Archbishops Becciu claims that division in the Church causes Pope Francis pain, the Holy Father refuses to address certain passages of Amoris Laetitia that are causing the divide when a simple yes or no would put the matter to rest.

Becciu continued: “I will enter into the controversies, but I do wish to reiterate the principles I have always been taught by the healthy tradition of the Church: As the Pope’s humble collaborator, I feel I have a duty to loyally tell him what I think when a decision is being taken.” Then, Bacciu said, he would obey the Pope fully in his decision.

Becciu reiterated obedience to the Holy Father, yet seemingly fails to acknowledge that the four Cardinals seek an equally clear line for the Church universal to follow. The dubia has been written; the Pope has not responded to the request for further clarification.

For Becciu, the dubia puts the Church in danger. “The unity of the Church, for which Jesus sweated blood and gave his life, comes before my own ideas, however good they may be. Ideas that have involved disobedience have ruined the Church.” But if the dubia could or in fact does create a separation in the Church, why does the Pope not step in if he is keen on keeping unity?

Another Cardinal has taken the side of the four doubters. Cardinal Renato Martino, president emeritus of the Pontifical Council for Justice and Peace, explained that it would be “just if the Pope would respond,” in an interview with La Fede Quotidiana.

Having been asked about the dubia, Martino answered: “I see nothing bad in them. It is licit in a topic of doctrine to take recourse with the Pope and I think it is also just to respond.”

Martino also stressed strongly that the admission to Communion for “remarried” divorced Catholics is not and will never be possible: “The doctrine has not changed and will not change. The sacrament of matrimony is indissoluble. Certainly the ‘case by case’ of which Amoris Laetitia speaks can lead to dubious interpretations when one thinks of the pastoral viewpoint it follows.”

Regarding the recent publication of Misericordia et Misera, an Apostolic letter with which the Pope has granted all priests worldwide the capacity to lift the excommunication tied to the sin of abortion, Martino clarified what the media spun to be an alleged relaxation of the Church’s teaching on abortions.

“The risk of launching a message like this exists," he said. "People, especially in this very secularized context, could misunderstand it, and it is enough to see the reactions and interpretations of the mass media. I am sure that this was not the intention of the Pope and in reality in the document abortion remains a most grave sin.”


TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Moral Issues
KEYWORDS: dictators; francischurch; papalotry
Full title: "Vatican official disapproves of Cardinals questioning Francis, says Pope’s collaborators must obey him"
1 posted on 12/20/2016 1:30:23 PM PST by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

The question is , Should the Pope obey God? Should Catholics follow their consciences?


2 posted on 12/20/2016 1:34:01 PM PST by stocksthatgoup (Where's Hillary?)
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To: ebb tide

All they asked for was a little clarification. They can’t help it if he’s as clear as mud on the topic.


3 posted on 12/20/2016 1:36:42 PM PST by al_c (Obama's standing in the world has fallen so much that Kenya now claims he was born in America.)
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To: ebb tide
"I feel I have a duty to loyally tell him what I think when a decision is being taken."

Therein lies the problem. Has a "decision been taken"? If so, the Holy Father needs to say so clearly, for not everyone is certain which direction he wants to take.

Holy Father, answer the dubia.
4 posted on 12/20/2016 1:36:48 PM PST by Antoninus ("The Western world has lost its civil courage, both as a whole and separately." -Solzhenitsyn)
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To: ebb tide

It’s as if Vatican officials are saying, “Don’t question the Pope. You’ll hurt his feelings.” Give me a break.


5 posted on 12/20/2016 1:41:16 PM PST by utahagen
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To: Antoninus

Only the mentally ill require black and white answers. The enlightened are comfortable with shades of grey. Fifty of them, apparently.


6 posted on 12/20/2016 1:42:05 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (Everywhere is freaks and hairies Dykes and fairies Tell me where is sanity?)
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To: Antoninus
Has a "decision been taken"? If so, the Holy Father needs to say so clearly,

Absolutely correct.

for not everyone is certain which direction he wants to take.

I'm certain which direction he wants to take - and therefore why he's chosen the path of studied ambiguity.

7 posted on 12/20/2016 1:45:40 PM PST by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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To: Jeff Chandler

:)


8 posted on 12/20/2016 1:50:00 PM PST by BlatherNaut
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To: ebb tide

Nuts!

There is nothing to “obey” if the the basic message is so obscure as to require the clarification requested.


9 posted on 12/20/2016 1:54:54 PM PST by G Larry (America now has the opportunity to return to God.)
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To: Jeff Chandler

“Collaborators” is the keyword.

If you’re not a collaborator of Bergoglio, you are the enemy of Bergoglio.


10 posted on 12/20/2016 1:56:45 PM PST by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide
But Archbishop......after a "period of discernment" in which my "conscience" has become my guide and in "consultation with my spiritual advisor", I have decided that Francis may have wandered off the reservation.

Are you telling us that when it comes to the Pope's writings, everything is "black and white" and there is no room for questions?

How odd!

11 posted on 12/20/2016 2:16:48 PM PST by marshmallow
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To: ebb tide

Galatians 2:11Amplified Bible (AMP)

Peter (Cephas) Opposed by Paul
11 Now when Cephas (Peter) came to Antioch, I opposed him face to face [about his conduct there], because he stood condemned [by his own actions].


12 posted on 12/20/2016 2:28:13 PM PST by Raycpa
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To: ebb tide

The ONLY person who you are NOT to question is God...

The poop is a human...he is sinful just being a human...and only God can forgive sin...

Sorry, but Francis the talking poop is a ‘falsehood’ period!!!


13 posted on 12/20/2016 2:46:18 PM PST by HarleyLady27 ('THE FORCE AWAKENS!!!' Trump/Pence: MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!!!)
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