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Astonishing Discovery at Christ's Tomb Supports Turin Shroud
EWTN Great Britain ^ | 11/26/16 | Deacon Nick Donnelly

Posted on 12/03/2016 9:15:33 AM PST by marshmallow

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1 posted on 12/03/2016 9:15:33 AM PST by marshmallow
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To: marshmallow
Another "astonishing" discovery?

It USED to start with "British science" has made an astonishing discovery...

2 posted on 12/03/2016 9:17:21 AM PST by cloudmountain
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To: marshmallow

The more science tries to prove there is no God, the more they prove there is.


3 posted on 12/03/2016 9:20:03 AM PST by longfellow (Bill Maher, the 21st hijacker.)
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To: marshmallow

May the electromagnetic force be with you!


4 posted on 12/03/2016 9:21:57 AM PST by eastsider
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To: marshmallow

Faith is the evidence of things unseen.

Faithless folk need “proof” and signs and miracles.

We are surrounded by the creative works of God every day. And yet we want a sign.

Romans 1:20


5 posted on 12/03/2016 9:24:45 AM PST by BereanBrain
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To: marshmallow
The ENEA study of the Holy Shroud of Turin concluded that it would take 34 Thousand Billion Watts of VUV radiations to make the image on the shroud. (the most powerful available (VUV light source) on the market come to several billion watts )”.

Interesting.

6 posted on 12/03/2016 9:25:53 AM PST by plain talk
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To: marshmallow

Anyone with an ounce of sense KNOWS the Shroud is REAL!


7 posted on 12/03/2016 9:32:23 AM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: marshmallow
The observation of unusual electromagnetic disturbances at the tomb of Our Lord may support a scientific hypothesis proposed to explain the creation of the mysterious image on the Holy Shroud of Turin.

That is a laughable conclusion, akin to "My magnetic compass once twitched a little near the pyramids. Astronauts observed magnetic phenomenon on the surface of the Moon. Hence: 'Moon-Men' built the pyramids."

Regards,

8 posted on 12/03/2016 9:32:42 AM PST by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: BereanBrain

That’s the trouble with miracles. No one will believe what one saw, and later one will even start to doubt one’s own eyes.


9 posted on 12/03/2016 9:33:42 AM PST by ichabod1 (Make America Normal Again)
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To: marshmallow

Scripture clearly says that Jesus face was wrapped with a separate napkin which Peter saw deliberately folded beside where the Lord lay.


10 posted on 12/03/2016 9:36:51 AM PST by BDParrish (One representative for every 30,000 persons!)
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To: marshmallow

Wasn’t The Shroud of Turin carbon-dated to post-date the death of Christ by many hundreds of years?


11 posted on 12/03/2016 9:37:40 AM PST by luvbach1 (I hope Trump runs roughshod over the inevitable obstuctionists, Dems, progs, libs, or RINOs!)
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To: alexander_busek
There's a difference between...."this data supports or is consistent with Hypotheis A" and ..."this data proves Hypothesis A". The former makes no claims of proof while the latter rules out all other possible hypotheses.

Since the article uses the phrase "may support...", it's making the first of the above statements, not the second.

I don't see a problem.

12 posted on 12/03/2016 9:40:47 AM PST by marshmallow
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To: BDParrish

pesky factual details ..... always in the way.


13 posted on 12/03/2016 9:41:05 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true, I have no proof, but they're true.)
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To: plain talk
The ENEA study of the Holy Shroud of Turin concluded that it would take 34 Thousand Billion Watts of VUV radiations to make the image on the shroud."

That's assuming that the image was made by VUV radiation. That has not yet been established, so the statement is misleading (as well as being nonsensical on the face of it - watts are units of power, not energy, and it is not stated for what duration that power would have to be applied.)

Regards,

14 posted on 12/03/2016 9:41:55 AM PST by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: luvbach1

No, the sample taken for that test was from some newer material used to patch up where there had been some fire damage.

What they have found on the shroud are pollen grains from a thorny flowering plant that grows around Jerusalem.


15 posted on 12/03/2016 9:42:15 AM PST by To Hell With Poverty (I support a woman's right to lose.)
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To: plain talk

No kidding. I do not require proof that the shroud is real to sustain my faith. I really do however have no doubt, that the image was created by God at the exact moment of Christ’s resurrection. The article goes on to say, that that amount of energy is beyond our ability to recreate. God is truly wonderful.


16 posted on 12/03/2016 9:42:50 AM PST by longfellowsmuse (last of the living nomads)
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To: alexander_busek

is your name Thomas by any chance?


17 posted on 12/03/2016 9:44:03 AM PST by longfellowsmuse (last of the living nomads)
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To: longfellowsmuse

Yes. And I find it most interesting that our modern scientists are still struggling to explain how the image got there. Even in this modern era they do not have the tools to even try and replicate it.


18 posted on 12/03/2016 9:47:09 AM PST by plain talk
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To: BDParrish

That napkin is now known as the ‘Sudarium of Olviedo’.

The marks on the Sudarium match the marks on the facial part of the Shroud in exact detail.


19 posted on 12/03/2016 9:47:28 AM PST by agere_contra (I will be glad and rejoice in your love, for You saw my affliction and knew the anguish of my soul.)
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To: marshmallow
There's a difference between...."this data supports or is consistent with Hypotheis A" and ..."this data proves Hypothesis A". The former makes no claims of proof while the latter rules out all other possible hypotheses. Since the article uses the phrase "may support...", it's making the first of the above statements, not the second. I don't see a problem.

I just discovered that my uncle likes to eat corn. The ancient Aztecs also ate corn. I make no claim of proof, mind you, but: This supports my hypothesis that my uncle is, in fact, an ancient Aztec.

You see, the new data I have uncovered (about my uncle) is not inconsistent with the established fact (that the Aztecs ate corn).

Of course, in this example, it's obvious that the assertion is ludicrous. But that's only because we are very familiar with the ancient Aztecs and living relatives. But substitute something more mysterious-sounding for the corn, like "stochastic alpha waves" or "enlarged cranial foramen," and (for laypersons) it starts getting more difficult to disbelieve in it (especially if they're predisposed to believe it anyway).

Regards,

20 posted on 12/03/2016 9:49:57 AM PST by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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