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Even before the Satanic Wikileaks photos and blood rituals were released, I'd started to believe the "rich men of the earth", those whom the Lord laughs at in Psalm 2, or those who love the UN (the UNiparty) and are longing for a NWO -- must be occultists of some kind. The UN was founded on Luciferian weird beliefs, as anyone who does a little research can see.

I don't know if Hillary really was a demonically programed little girl from the start, or if her "health" issues of blackouts, brain sputters, seizures are really spiritual issues -- I just know we are in a spiritual battle now and need to do as it says in the King James version of Matthew 17:21...

1 posted on 11/06/2016 5:09:44 PM PST by Sontagged
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To: Sontagged

Actually the NIV mentions “fasting” plenty of times: https://www.biblegateway.com/quicksearch/?quicksearch=fasting&qs_version=NIV


2 posted on 11/06/2016 5:11:46 PM PST by vladimir998 (Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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To: Sontagged

>Why Is “Fasting” Omitted In Some Bible Translations?

Hopefully for the same reason most of the witch burning aspect of the old testament was deleted.

It makes no sense, it’s evil and is useless for good to prevail.


3 posted on 11/06/2016 5:14:11 PM PST by soycd
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To: Sontagged

Because it takes effort.


4 posted on 11/06/2016 5:16:02 PM PST by heights
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To: Sontagged

Stick with King James version.


7 posted on 11/06/2016 5:20:47 PM PST by Baldwin77 (They hated Reagan too ! TRUMP TOUGH - AMERICA STRONG)
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To: Sontagged

Start with a study of Biblical texts. See which text family the translation is based upon. (Textus Receptus or Majority Text). Then look at the translation philosophy (formal equivalence or dynamic equivalence). Finally, look for translator bias.

On the third item, the original NIV is OK, but the TNIV and the current version should be avoided for the intentional injection of socially liberal bias.

My personal preference is for the New King James version. Readable, and deals with manuscript and translation issues in an honest manner.


11 posted on 11/06/2016 5:30:56 PM PST by PAR35
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To: Sontagged

Bkmk


15 posted on 11/06/2016 5:36:33 PM PST by sauropod (Beware the fury of a patient man. I've lost my patience!)
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To: Sontagged

Bkmk


16 posted on 11/06/2016 5:36:59 PM PST by sauropod (Beware the fury of a patient man. I've lost my patience!)
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To: Sontagged

We wrestle not against flesh and blood,

Prayers for Donald Trump, Mike Pence and their families, for their spiritual and physical protection,

Time for believers to fast and pray, we must get on our knees now, today, tonight, tomorrow morning, before things are set in stone and legally completed,

Pray the people will wake up and see the bias and media distortions designed to install the corrupt and lawless Clinton administration and her Muslim Brotherhood masters.

Satan is using every lying sign and wonder and will give power to who he will, our prayers are having an impact,

Satan has to destroy the freedoms that believers have in the USA as we have been an effective unhindered opposition spiritually withstanding him, we are where we are today because so many have fallen away or fallen asleep,

Again, fast and pray, now is the time


29 posted on 11/06/2016 7:14:24 PM PST by captmar-vell
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These modern translations omitting fasting insulate demonic forces that cannot be defeated.

KJVO is easier than actually learning about textual transmission.

34 posted on 11/07/2016 6:59:09 AM PST by Lee N. Field ("And if you are Christ's, then you are Abraham's offspring, heirs according to promise" Gal 3:29)
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According to the well-known Bible commenter Adam Clarke:

Matthew 17:21

This kind goeth not out but by prayer, etc. - Τουτο το γενος, this kind, some apply to the faith which should be exercised on the occasion, which goeth not out, doth not exert itself, but by prayer and fasting; but this interpretation is, in my opinion, far from solid. However, there is great difficulty in the text. The whole verse is wanting in the famous Vatican MS., one of the most ancient and most authentic perhaps in the world; and in another one of Colbert’s, written in the 11th or 12th century. It is wanting also in the Coptic, Ethiopic, Syriac, Hieros., and in one copy of the Itala. But all the MSS. acknowledge it in the parallel place, Mark 9:29, only the Vatican MS. leaves out νηϚεια, fasting. I strongly suspect it to be an interpolation; but, if it be, it is very ancient, as Origen, Chrysostom, and others of the primitive fathers, acknowledged it. But while candour obliges me to acknowledge that I cannot account for the fact here alleged, that a certain class or genus of demons cannot be expelled but by prayer and fasting, while others may be ejected without them, I can give a sense to the passage which all my readers will easily understand: viz. that there are certain evil propensities, in some persons, which pampering the flesh tends to nourish and strengthen; and that self-denial and fasting, accompanied by prayer to God, are the most likely means, not only to mortify such propensities, but also to destroy them. For other remarkable circumstances relative to this case, see the notes on Mark 9:17, etc.

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Mark 9:17

A dumb spirit - That is, a demon who afflicted those in whom it dwelt with an incapacity of speaking. The spirit itself could not be either deaf or dumb. These are accidents that belong only to organized animate bodies.

37 posted on 11/07/2016 3:49:26 PM PST by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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