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If You Don’t Like Either Candidate, Then Vote for Trump’s Policies
Town Hall ^ | October 19, 2016 | Wayne Grudem

Posted on 10/24/2016 6:25:51 AM PDT by Gil4

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I wanted to reference this in another thread and saw it hadn't been posted. I thought it did a good job of addressing the Christian objections to voting for Trump.
1 posted on 10/24/2016 6:25:51 AM PDT by Gil4
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To: Gil4
Had a discussion with a co-worker who says she's a 'moderate' republican but is concerned that Trump's demeanor is turning off independents.

I went through the list of the other republican candidates one by one with her and she agreed none of them would have done better than Trump.

2 posted on 10/24/2016 6:29:22 AM PDT by AU72
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And amazingly many of Mr Trump’s positions enjoy considerable support even in the most hard- leftist neighborhoods ( like the poll below which is in or adjacent to the Jackie Spier, Tom Lantos, Nancy Pelosi, barbara boxer, Dianne Feinstein etc etc community) — see for instance how “I hate Obamacare” is leading this ( active now) poll ( right side of page): www.smdailyjournal.com


3 posted on 10/24/2016 6:32:39 AM PDT by faithhopecharity ("Politicians are not born. They're excreted." Marcus Tullius Cicero.)
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To: Gil4
I'm voting for Trump because Pee Wee Herman isn't on the ballot.

'Nuff said.

4 posted on 10/24/2016 6:33:33 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Go ahead, bite the Big Apple ... don't mind the maggots.")
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To: Gil4

Even if you can’t stand Trump, evangelicals, you can vote for Pence and you can vote for the best policies. Or you can take the high and mighty approach and help Hillary.


5 posted on 10/24/2016 6:36:34 AM PDT by Genoa (Luke 12:2)
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A vote for Trump may effectively be a vote for Pence because I don’t see Trump hanging around in the White House for more than a year or two.


6 posted on 10/24/2016 6:37:30 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Go ahead, bite the Big Apple ... don't mind the maggots.")
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To: Gil4
And EVEN if you dislike policies from both sides (e.g. you are a 100% free trader, no exceptions), vote Trump because everything he promotes will get 100x the scrutiny from the media as anything HRC puts out, especially if Ryan and McConnell are on board. Anything Trump puts out will have him STARTING with ALL the Democrats against, and half the Republicans against or skeptical. It won't stay there, but that is how he will start.

And after the lambasting that Rush received, I hope the MSM asks how best Trump can succeed, with "I hope he fails" not being an appropriate option.
7 posted on 10/24/2016 6:43:43 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: Gil4

...Churches would not be exempt from the impact of a liberal Supreme Court.....

They would not be exempt from Hillary either. She has already said that Christians MUST change their beliefs. I am beginning to think that 666 is the number of a woman.


8 posted on 10/24/2016 6:44:55 AM PDT by Sasparilla (Hillary for Prison 2016)
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The liberal media loved this. “Evangelical theologian calls on Trump to withdraw.”

Ugh. I wonder how much damage he's done.

9 posted on 10/24/2016 6:45:13 AM PDT by Lonely Bull ("When he is being rude or mean it drives people _away_ from his confession and _towards_ yours.")
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To: Gil4

I am forwarding this to all the holier-than-thou types who are too sanctimonious to vote for Trump.

Also, I’d like to add that regarding his previous indiscretions, I’m not convinced he’s still that same person anymore. Hillary however is absolutely unrepentant of her past.


10 posted on 10/24/2016 6:50:56 AM PDT by surroundedbyblue (Proud to be an Infidel & a deplorable.)
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To: Gil4

[I thought it did a good job of addressing the Christian objections to voting for Trump.]

THIS ONE TELLS IT LIKE IT IS! Pass this to every NEVER TRUMP person you know, as well as your pastor and members in your church.

WHY EVERY CHRISTIAN SHOULD STAND UP AND VOTE FOR DONALD TRUMP
http://constitution.com/every-christian-stand-vote-donald-trump/


11 posted on 10/24/2016 6:54:31 AM PDT by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord. Psalm 33:12)
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To: surroundedbyblue

Trump made this election about issues, immigration, border, ISIS, economy, taxes, and the military.
Clinton made this about Trump and character assassination like the left always does with the help of the media again.


12 posted on 10/24/2016 6:58:19 AM PDT by manc ( If they want so called marriage equality then they should support polygamy too.)
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> Also, I’d like to add that regarding his previous indiscretions, I’m not convinced he’s still that same person anymore. Hillary however is absolutely unrepentant of her past.

I believe his intentions are good and I think he still has the Westpoint soldier heart of wanting to right great wrongs in a country he no longer recognizes especially after the enemy moved into the WH. I think he sees and understands the great danger we face in losing the great country he grew up in and is willing to take a stand to wipe the filth and corruption out by using common sense policies that the left would never adhere to because it created such wealth for them. Like it or not he has simple, no nonsense policies that I believe could work if he can get the public behind him and the few remaining politicians who feels the same way he does. As for me there is no doubt who is willing to roll up their sleeves and start leaning house while the other one intends to destroy us even further just for malice and a greed we could never understand.

13 posted on 10/24/2016 7:07:02 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: Gil4

Don’t particularly trust Trump on his announced policies, but the alternative is Hillary!.
Not really a hard choice there.


14 posted on 10/24/2016 7:09:12 AM PDT by Little Ray (Freedom Before Security!)
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To: Gil4

Very good strategy for communicating with the eternally confused.


15 posted on 10/24/2016 7:13:30 AM PDT by Phillyred
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To: Gil4

All one has to do is watch Trump’s Gettysburg speech to realize that Trump is totally sincere in his love for and desire to make American great again. There is no valid reason to continue to dislike Trump. It is baffling that there are people out there (i.e., Glen Beck) who continue to not support Trump and thereby elect Hillary.

After all, all of us are sinners in one way or another, other than Our Lord Himself and He can’t be on the ticket.

Trump is Christian (Presbyterian) and does not smoke or drink.

Trump’s position on all the issues is exactly right. What’s not to like? (rhetorical - not directed at poster)

His declaration to repeal the Johnson amendment ALONE ought to bring Christians flocking in to vote for him with enthusiasm!

The anti-Trump reluctant hold outs defy logic and/or are holier than thou and we all know what Jesus said about casting the first stone ...


16 posted on 10/24/2016 7:21:10 AM PDT by stonehouse01
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Excellent well thought out arguments. The only thing I have to take issue with is the following: “the leadership of the Republican party already knew that Trump was the most unacceptable of all the choices we had. They fought tooth and nail against Trump in the primaries, and he won anyway.”

The leadership of the GOP didn't fight against Trump because he was the most unacceptable. They fought against him because they already had their chosen candidate, Jeb Bush. Then when that didn't pan out they supported Rubio. Then when that didn't happen they supported Kasich and even talked of Romney getting into the race or staging a coup at the convention. All four choices of the leadership were not conservatives. All four men would fold when faced with opposition on the Left. All four men attacked Trump harder than they would ever fight a Democrat opponent. The problem with Trump is that he was more conservative than the party elites. And he was an outsider. He wasn't a politician. He wasn't slick and smooth talking. Trump is a fighter who understands where we are in our nation's history. He is willing to call evil evil. He is willing to calling Hillary what she is. None of the Republican leadership is willing to do that. None of them are fighters (unless they are attacking conservatives). In fact, they are perfectly content to lose. And from the statements most have made, they would indeed rather have Hillary than Trump and will vote accordingly. Never mind the total destruction she would bring on the country. For those on the farther right of the political spectrum, the attitude was that Trump wasn't conservative enough. He was too moderate. So Trump got it from both sides. Meanwhile, it is ironic to me that people like this pastor are left with the impression that the leadership of the Republican Party is closer to them than Trump. What this election has accomplished more than anything is shine the light on the RINOs in the Republican leadership. And they are anything but conservative or Christian.

17 posted on 10/24/2016 7:22:01 AM PDT by Nevadan
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To: knittnmom

PFL


18 posted on 10/24/2016 7:29:41 AM PDT by knittnmom
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To: Alberta's Child

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVKsd8z6scw


20 posted on 10/24/2016 7:35:01 AM PDT by Osage Orange (Cover up after cover up...OUR GOVERNMENT is OUT OF CONTROL)
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