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To: af_vet_1981
I understand the Early Church Fathers as an unbroken historical chain of the one holy catholic apostolic church, each one of them with gifts from the Father excersised and refined according to their faith and obedience, combined their human frailties.

This is where you argument fails. If it's an unbroken chain as the catholic claims then they will all be on the same message points.

They are not and roman catholicism knows this. When they disagree with the ECF the ECF is dismissed as being wrong.

Christianity is catholic.

Christianity may be catholic in the sense it is universal. Christianity is not roman catholic which is not universal for roman catholicism adds to Christianity. See all the prior discussions regarding the worship of mary, indulgences, etc. You would not have a Bible except for the one holy catholic apostolic church.

Please...we had the Bible before the roman catholic church.

For the group who claims they gave the world the Bible it seems to be the one book they reject the most.

233 posted on 09/24/2016 6:11:51 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: ealgeone
This is where you argument fails. If it's an unbroken chain as the catholic claims then they will all be on the same message points.

Do you mean like the Jewish prophets ?

Even the Protestant leaders who re-formed a religion do not agree with each other. How could their religious product possibly be valid given your premises ? Why then do you follow them ?

They are not and roman catholicism knows this.

Poor semantic construct

When they disagree with the ECF the ECF is dismissed as being wrong.

Again, poor semantic construct

Christianity is catholic.

Christianity may be catholic in the sense it is universal.

Not may be; is.

Christianity is not roman catholic which is not universal for roman catholicism adds to Christianity.

Yes, Christianity is Catholic, and yes it is universal, being found throughout the known world.

See all the prior discussions regarding the worship of mary, indulgences, etc.

Mary is not worshipped; she is honored and loved, as by sons and daughters. If you love her son, you would love her.

You would not have a Bible except for the one holy catholic apostolic church.

Please...we had the Bible before the roman catholic church.

Why do you, one person, use the word "we ?" You would not have the Bible except for the one holy catholic apostolic church, which is the historical source of the Christian Bible.

For the group who claims they gave the world the Bible it seems to be the one book they reject the most.

The Bible is composed of books. I have freely posted from it on this very thread.

234 posted on 09/24/2016 6:31:55 PM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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