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To: Lera

I don’t know why JD keeps saying the United States is not mentioned in prophecy. MANY countries are not mentioned. We are included in the aggregate, but so are they. I don’t know how he can conclude that it means one of two things will happen: either the Rapture or the destruction of our country.

All it proves is that we will not come to the rescue of Israel.

Of course there are other reasons to expect both of those things.


4 posted on 09/12/2016 12:01:37 PM PDT by firebrand
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To: firebrand

Besides, we could be the young lions of Tarsus. I.e., the children of England. JD himself has referred to this.


5 posted on 09/12/2016 12:04:05 PM PDT by firebrand
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To: firebrand; Lera; amorphous; Jeremiah Jr
I don’t know why JD keeps saying the United States is not mentioned in prophecy.

He's blind, that's why. The whole of the Redemption hinges on America being in Bible prophecy. Even the well-known name of the US government (Uncle Sam) is indictative of the battles waged in high places.

Uncle - דוד - David
Sam - Samael - the malak of Esav

Jacob vs. the malak of Esav - Gen 32; David vs. Goliath champion of the Philistines ("immigrants") - 1 Sam 17

Starting at 17:30... "There's a marriage between history and prophecy. There's a marriage between Bible history and Bible prophecy. When you understand history, you have a better understanding of prophecy."

From 27:20 (re Isa 17, Eze 38)... "I'll take it a step further - you see it on the screen - and suggest, that America is about to fade into the backdrop of obscurity, regardless of who's elected president in 57 days, 17 hours, 12 minutes, and 20 seconds. That was as of 6:47 am HST."

He then goes on about the responsibility of voting. Well fine, he acknowledges that he can discern the face of politicians, but cannot discern the signs of the times. Because...

From 30:20... "If you were to ask me why I believe why America is fast becoming inconsequential on the geopolitical landscape, my answer would be that the United States of America is conspicuously absent from the pages of Bible prophecy, that's why. That's why I can make a statement like it doesn't matter who becomes president, because in the final analysis, there is no America in Bible prophecy, which means that something must happen to the once most blessed and powerful nation on earth in order to explain this absence."

This isn't absence; it's blindness. He can't find America in Bible prophecy, so she must not be there. After setting up his false premise, he goes on about what would explain this so-called absence. Destruction, or... the Rapture! Yeah, that's the ticket... A revival, then a Rapture... "It would gut out this great nation!" Lies built upon lies, that's how these wolves do it. He sets up the false premise, then rolls along with his amazing conclusion. Millions of Christians along with the Holy Spirit, gone. Millions? You'd need a BROAD ROAD to fit them all, hello.

Preached on the anniversary of 911 no less. Did he not see the double ash heap of the World Trade Center towers, the double symbol of world commerce (what the world produces is what it trades - its fruit)?

He must be reporting from the heart of spiritual Egypt then. Out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh.

Genesis 41:52 And the name of the second called he Ephraim: For God hath caused me [Joseph] to be fruitful in the land of my affliction.

Ephraim = "double ash-heap: I shall be doubly fruitful"

Joseph is still alive, and he is a parable over all of Egypt (mashal = governor, parable). The one who governs is who is the representative head; a parable is an allegory - one thing that represents, symbolizes another.

Egypt aka the house of bondage. That's a good description of the mindset of the End Times prophecy teachers. They are in bondage to their own doctrines. No life there; no air. Bread made with dead leaven. Baked bricks.

"There's a marriage between Bible history and Bible prophecy. When you understand history, you have a better understanding of prophecy."

And when you don't, you won't find America in Bible prophecy.

7 posted on 09/12/2016 2:44:35 PM PDT by Ezekiel (All who mourn the destruction of America merit the celebration of her rebirth.)
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To: firebrand

[[I don’t know why JD keeps saying the United States is not mentioned in prophecy. MANY countries are not mentioned. We are included in the aggregate, but so are they. I don’t know how he can conclude that it means one of two things will happen: either the Rapture or the destruction of our country.

All it proves is that we will not come to the rescue of Israel.

Of course there are other reasons to expect both of those things.]]

He says it because we are a huge country that from the beginning has protected the Jewish people . We are the first country that gave them full citizenship , the only country that being born Jewish did not make them a target .
It is our heritage but we have abandoned it and we are in the process of replacing it with people with a destructive heritage towards the Jewish people (we are trading our population for Assyrians )JD loves the country and wishes more to be saved , maybe they will be in the tribulation period.

This country took the gospel all over the world , a remanent of it is still doing just that and God is still pouring out his Spirit in the most unlikely of places :)

Where he is wrong is big means nothing in God’s scheme of things . What happens in this country is not the center , the center is Jerusalem .

I agree with him that we are going to have an outpouring of the Holy Spirit in this country once again . Don’t think it will be huge nor turn the nation around.

9/11 should have caused the nation to repent , most did not and still think we are going to have economic recovery (I don’t think so anyone who really understands the numbers knows recovery is but impossible )
I also don’t think a large part of the country will even miss us when we are gone . A large part of this nation is being turned over to a reprobate mind

Keep looking up , we are going home soon .


8 posted on 09/12/2016 3:37:25 PM PDT by Lera ( 1 Corinthians 15:1-4)
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To: firebrand; Lera
9/11 in Islam

9 x 11 = 99 names of Allah

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Names_of_God_in_Islam

They misspelled #16, The Bestower
Should read The Beast

BTW, Mo is the false prophet spoken of in John's Revelation, nowhere does it say he's alive at this time...

11 posted on 09/12/2016 4:44:08 PM PDT by Jeremiah Jr (EL CHI)
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To: firebrand
I don’t know why JD keeps saying the United States is not mentioned in prophecy. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Because the US isn't!

Most nations aren't explicitly mentioned, only a few. That doesn't mean the US is in the same aggregate as those that aren't mentioned, except in the very final analysis, "Israel & the Nations."

What "nation" is the US?

Abraham-Isaac-Jacob is the "nation" of Israel (Jews).
Abraham-Ishmael is the "nation" of Islam (Muslims).
Now consider Abraham-Isaac-Esau, TWIN of Jacob....What "nation" considers itself grafted onto Israel? What "nation" has a TWIN religious text of Israel? The answer is Christianity (Christians).

Look at the Untied States - forever trying to destroy Israel through the "peace process" and trying to establish the 57th (remember Osatan's 57 states Freudian slip?) Muslim terror state of "palestine."
And now look, the US is waging war in Syria (bordering Israel) and the Russians and Turks have joined. With all The US's troubles, many and major, they are warring in Syria. Isn't there a prophesy about Damascus or something?

The physical Christian nations of the world are the USA and the EU. You can't have ESAU without both USA & EU. That's not a coincidence.

14 posted on 09/13/2016 6:50:12 PM PDT by Mr. M.J.B.
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To: firebrand

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>> “I don’t know why JD keeps saying the United States is not mentioned in prophecy.” <<

JD is quite wrong!

He says it because he views prophecy through dirty glasses.

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23 posted on 09/14/2016 9:43:44 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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