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To: firebrand; Lera; amorphous; Jeremiah Jr
I don’t know why JD keeps saying the United States is not mentioned in prophecy.

He's blind, that's why. The whole of the Redemption hinges on America being in Bible prophecy. Even the well-known name of the US government (Uncle Sam) is indictative of the battles waged in high places.

Uncle - דוד - David
Sam - Samael - the malak of Esav

Jacob vs. the malak of Esav - Gen 32; David vs. Goliath champion of the Philistines ("immigrants") - 1 Sam 17

Starting at 17:30... "There's a marriage between history and prophecy. There's a marriage between Bible history and Bible prophecy. When you understand history, you have a better understanding of prophecy."

From 27:20 (re Isa 17, Eze 38)... "I'll take it a step further - you see it on the screen - and suggest, that America is about to fade into the backdrop of obscurity, regardless of who's elected president in 57 days, 17 hours, 12 minutes, and 20 seconds. That was as of 6:47 am HST."

He then goes on about the responsibility of voting. Well fine, he acknowledges that he can discern the face of politicians, but cannot discern the signs of the times. Because...

From 30:20... "If you were to ask me why I believe why America is fast becoming inconsequential on the geopolitical landscape, my answer would be that the United States of America is conspicuously absent from the pages of Bible prophecy, that's why. That's why I can make a statement like it doesn't matter who becomes president, because in the final analysis, there is no America in Bible prophecy, which means that something must happen to the once most blessed and powerful nation on earth in order to explain this absence."

This isn't absence; it's blindness. He can't find America in Bible prophecy, so she must not be there. After setting up his false premise, he goes on about what would explain this so-called absence. Destruction, or... the Rapture! Yeah, that's the ticket... A revival, then a Rapture... "It would gut out this great nation!" Lies built upon lies, that's how these wolves do it. He sets up the false premise, then rolls along with his amazing conclusion. Millions of Christians along with the Holy Spirit, gone. Millions? You'd need a BROAD ROAD to fit them all, hello.

Preached on the anniversary of 911 no less. Did he not see the double ash heap of the World Trade Center towers, the double symbol of world commerce (what the world produces is what it trades - its fruit)?

He must be reporting from the heart of spiritual Egypt then. Out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh.

Genesis 41:52 And the name of the second called he Ephraim: For God hath caused me [Joseph] to be fruitful in the land of my affliction.

Ephraim = "double ash-heap: I shall be doubly fruitful"

Joseph is still alive, and he is a parable over all of Egypt (mashal = governor, parable). The one who governs is who is the representative head; a parable is an allegory - one thing that represents, symbolizes another.

Egypt aka the house of bondage. That's a good description of the mindset of the End Times prophecy teachers. They are in bondage to their own doctrines. No life there; no air. Bread made with dead leaven. Baked bricks.

"There's a marriage between Bible history and Bible prophecy. When you understand history, you have a better understanding of prophecy."

And when you don't, you won't find America in Bible prophecy.

7 posted on 09/12/2016 2:44:35 PM PDT by Ezekiel (All who mourn the destruction of America merit the celebration of her rebirth.)
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To: Ezekiel; Lera
Great post but it's too rich for the rapture crowd as they prefer fiction, like...

Once upon a time...

Dorothy: Oh, will you help me? Can you help me? Glinda: You don't need to be helped any longer. You've always had the power to go back to Kansas. Dorothy: I have? Scarecrow: Then why didn't you tell her before? Glinda: She wouldn't have believed me. She had to learn it for herself. Scarecrow: What have you learned, Dorothy? Dorothy: Well, I—I think that it, that it wasn't enough just to want to see Uncle Henry and Auntie Em — and it's that — if I ever go looking for my heart's desire again, I won't look any further than my own backyard. Because if it isn't there, I never really lost it to begin with! Is that right? Glinda: That's all it is! Scarecrow: But that's so easy! I should've thought of it for you - Tin Man: I should have felt it in my heart - Glinda: No, she had to find it out for herself. Now those magic slippers will take you home in two seconds! Dorothy: Oh! Toto too? Glinda: Toto too. Dorothy: Now? Glinda: Whenever you wish. Glinda: Then close your eyes and tap your heels together three times. And think to yourself, 'There's no place like home'.

There's no place like home' There's no place like home' There's no place like home'

9 posted on 09/12/2016 4:25:14 PM PDT by Jeremiah Jr (EL CHI)
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To: Ezekiel; firebrand; Lera; Jeremiah Jr

I don’t understand how anyone could read Isaiah or Revelation and not see America in prophecy.


13 posted on 09/12/2016 7:37:14 PM PDT by amorphous
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To: Ezekiel
In one of JD's videos he stated that he didn't believe there's a link between future events (a rapture) and Rosh Hashanah (Feasts of The LORD / New Moon festivals) because of the The Doctrine of Imminence

Examine this, oy gevalt!

The Doctrine of Imminence - Chuck Missler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79QjC4KLAEE

Daniel 8
15 Then it happened, when I, Daniel, had seen the vision and was seeking the meaning, that suddenly there stood before me one having the appearance of a man. 16 And I heard a man’s voice between the banks of the Ulai, who called, and said, “Gabriel, make this man understand the vision.” 17 So he came near where I stood, and when he came I was afraid and fell on my face; but he said to me, “Understand, son of man, that the vision refers to the time of the end.”

“Understand, son of man, that the vision refers to the time of the end.”

18 Now, as he was speaking with me, I was in a deep sleep with my face to the ground; but he touched me, and stood me upright. 19 And he said, “Look, I am making known to you what shall happen in the latter time of the indignation; for at the appointed time the end shall be.

At the appointed time the end shall be

Appointed = Moed

H4150 MOED
מוֹעֵד
appointed place, appointed time, meeting
appointed time
appointed time (general)
sacred season, set feast, appointed season
appointed meeting
appointed place
appointed sign or signal
tent of meeting

Appointed, as in...

Genesis 1:14 And ELoHIM said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, H4150 and for days, and years:

Isaiah 66:23 And it shall come to pass That from one New Moon to another, And from one Sabbath to another, All flesh shall come to worship before Me,” says the Lord.

Ezekiel 46:1 ‘Thus says the Lord God: “The gateway of the inner court that faces toward the east shall be shut the six working days; but on the Sabbath it shall be opened, and on the day of the New Moon it shall be opened.

Well there goes imminence, in a puff of logic

29 posted on 09/14/2016 7:55:03 PM PDT by Jeremiah Jr (EL CHI)
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