Posted on 08/31/2016 5:20:36 PM PDT by Jeremiah Jr
A Rapture, of Sorts?
Disclaimer: First things first. I do not believe in what some people call a pre tribulation rapture and I’ve discovered that there is no *seven year tribulation, ergo, no mid tribulation anything.
But there is a return and that I can write about.
Second the word rapture does not appear in the Bible so let me find a word that is there...
Genesis 5:24 And Enoch walked with God; and he was not, for God took him.
Took:
לָקַח
לָקַח lâqach, law-kakh'; a primitive root; to take (in the widest variety of applications):—accept, bring, buy, carry away, drawn, fetch, get, infold, × many, mingle, place, receive(-ing), reserve, seize, send for, take (away, -ing, up), use, win.
Hebrews 11:5 By faith Enoch was translated so that he did not see death, “and was not found, because God had taken him”; for before he was taken he had this testimony, that he pleased God.
בָּאֱמוּנָה לֻקַּח חֲנוֹךְ
Same word laqach English: translated
Shift: Now Yeshua was keen to throw people off the trail from time to time, for instance.
John 6:53 Then Yeshua said to them, “Most assuredly, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink His blood, you have no life in you.
Well, anyone can tell you that scenario is not kosher at anyones table, clearly a metaphor.
Now this one is one of the best ‘fork in the road’ statements He ever delivered.
Matthew 24:36 But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, but My Father only.
And here’s an interesting fact about this statement, Yeshua actually narrowed it down when He said this!
The keys to unlocking scripture lies in the rituals, for instance.
Honey is an ingredient for Rosh Hashanah dishes, honey cake, apples dipped in honey etc.
So when you read: Revelation 10:10 Then I took the little book out of the angel’s hand and ate it, and it was as sweet as honey in my mouth. But when I had eaten it, my stomach became bitter.
This tells me the new year will start off sweet but will turn bitter soon afterwards.
Same thing with the ‘no man knows the day or the hour’ statement.
Now I’ve heard many ‘rapture teachers’ state that ‘the rapture can take place at any time’
This could not be further from the truth.
The day no man knows, is an idiom for Rosh Hashanah and it’s a festival that this phrase fits perfectly. Anywhere in the world it’s one of two days, ergo...
Here’s some examples of the importance of the Feasts of the LORD
25 Kislev 3756 - Chanukah / Conception of Yeshua
15 Tishri 3757 - Sukkot / Birth of Yeshua
15 Nisan 3790 - (30 C.E.) Pesach / Crucifixion of Yeshua
For reference go to your main library and see Encyclopedia Judaica, Jesus died 30 C.E.
Big Notice! Rosh Hashanah takes place on the new moon and it lasts two days. But there are other two day new moon festivals that take place during the year.
Bamidbar (Numbers)10:10 Also at your times of rejoicing--your appointed feasts and New Moon festivals--you are to sound the trumpets over your burnt offerings and fellowship offerings, and they will be a memorial for you before your God. I am HaShem your God."
Now there are a few words you should pay attention to, trumpets, new moons, wedding celebrations, etc...
From:
Torah Readings
Each week in synagogue, we read (or, more accurately, chant, because it is sung) a passage from the Torah...
In the synagogue service, the weekly parshah is followed by a passage from the prophets, which is referred to as a haftarah.
http://www.jewfaq.org/readings.htm
Yeshua read the haftarah See: Luke 4:16-30
This section is read for Shabbat Machar Chodesh and it’s the one we’re interested in.
1 Samuel 20:18 Then Jonathan said to David, “Tomorrow is the New Moon; and you will be missed, because your seat will be empty. 19 And when you have stayed three days, go down quickly and come to the place where you hid on the day of the deed; and remain by the stone Ezel. 20 Then I will shoot three arrows to the side, as though I shot at a target; 21 and there I will send a lad, saying, ‘Go, find the arrows.’ If I expressly say to the lad, ‘Look, the arrows are on this side of you; get them and come’—then, as the Lord lives, there is safety for you and no harm. 22 But if I say thus to the young man, ‘Look, the arrows are beyond you’—go your way, for the Lord has sent you away. 23 And as for the matter which you and I have spoken of, indeed the Lord be between you and me forever.”
24 Then David hid in the field. And when the New Moon had come, the king sat down to eat the feast. 25 Now the king sat on his seat, as at other times, on a seat by the wall. And Jonathan arose, and Abner sat by Saul’s side, but David’s place was empty. 26 Nevertheless Saul did not say anything that day, for he thought, “Something has happened to him; he is unclean, surely he is unclean.” 27 And it happened the next day, the second day of the month, that David’s place was empty. And Saul said to Jonathan his son, “Why has the son of Jesse not come to eat, either yesterday or today?”
28 So Jonathan answered Saul, “David earnestly asked permission of me to go to Bethlehem. 29 And he said, ‘Please let me go, for our family has a sacrifice in the city, and my brother has commanded me to be there. And now, if I have found favor in your eyes, please let me get away and see my brothers.’ Therefore he has not come to the king’s table.”
30 Then Saul’s anger was aroused against Jonathan, and he said to him, “You son of a perverse, rebellious woman! Do I not know that you have chosen the son of Jesse to your own shame and to the shame of your mother’s nakedness? 31 For as long as the son of Jesse lives on the earth, you shall not be established, nor your kingdom. Now therefore, send and bring him to me, for he shall surely die.”
32 And Jonathan answered Saul his father, and said to him, “Why should he be killed? What has he done?” 33 Then Saul cast a spear at him to kill him, by which Jonathan knew that it was determined by his father to kill David.
34 So Jonathan arose from the table in fierce anger, and ate no food the second day of the month, for he was grieved for David, because his father had treated him shamefully.
35 And so it was, in the morning, that Jonathan went out into the field at the time appointed with David, and a little lad was with him. 36 Then he said to his lad, “Now run, find the arrows which I shoot.” As the lad ran, he shot an arrow beyond him. 37 When the lad had come to the place where the arrow was which Jonathan had shot, Jonathan cried out after the lad and said, “Is not the arrow beyond you?” 38 And Jonathan cried out after the lad, “Make haste, hurry, do not delay!” So Jonathan’s lad gathered up the arrows and came back to his master. 39 But the lad did not know anything. Only Jonathan and David knew of the matter. 40 Then Jonathan gave his weapons to his lad, and said to him, “Go, carry them to the city.”
41 As soon as the lad had gone, David arose from a place toward the south, fell on his face to the ground, and bowed down three times. And they kissed one another; and they wept together, but David more so. 42 Then Jonathan said to David, “Go in peace, since we have both sworn in the name of the Lord, saying, ‘May the Lord be between you and me, and between your descendants and my descendants, forever.’” So he arose and departed, and Jonathan went into the city.
This is the critical section:
Then Jonathan said to David, “Tomorrow is the New Moon; and you will be missed, because your seat will be empty. 19 And when you have stayed three days, go down quickly and come to the place where you hid on the day of the deed; and remain by the stone Ezel.
Hebrew names have definitions and Ezel means...
Ezel אֶזֶל
Ezel = "departure"
a memorial stone between Ramah and Nob; scene of final farewell between David and Jonathan
New Moon, Three Days, Departure
Are you paying attention?
Proverbs 7
19 For my husband is not at home;
He has gone on a long journey;
20 He hath taken a bag of money with him;
He will come home at the full moon.
צְרוֹר־הַכֶּסֶף לָקַח בְּיָדוֹ לְיוֹם הַכֵּסֶא יָבֹא בֵיתוֹ
כֶּסֶא כֶּסֶא keçeʼ, keh'-seh; or כֶּסֶה keçeh; apparently from H3680; properly, fulness or the full moon, i.e. its festival:—(time) appointed.
Strong's Number H3677 matches the Hebrew כֶּסֶא (kece'), which occurs 2 times in 2 verses in the Hebrew concordance of the KJV
Psalm 81:3 Blow the shofar in the new moon, in the time appointed, H3677 on our solemn feast day.
Proverbs 7:20 He hath taken a bag of money with him, and will come home at the day appointed. H3677
כֶּסֶא Kaf Samech Alef New Moon, Full Moon
Ben Yehuda’s Hebrew English Dictionary
John 2:1 On the third day there was a wedding in Cana of Galilee, and the mother of Jesus was there. 2 Now both Jesus and His disciples were invited to the wedding. 3 And when they ran out of wine, the mother of Jesus said to Him, “They have no wine.”
4 Jesus said to her, “Woman, what does your concern have to do with Me? My hour has not yet come.”
My hour has not yet come, what does that mean?
Wedding hour?
A solar eclipse can only take place at the phase of new moon, when the moon passes directly between the sun and Earth and its shadows fall ... blah blah blah
space.com
Diamond ring effect. noun, Astronomy. 1. a phenomenon, sometimes observed immediately before and after a total eclipse of the sun, in which one of Baily's beads is much brighter than the others, resembling a diamond ring around the moon.
And diamond rings are used in Weddings! Is the picture becoming clearer?
Notes:
*See: The book of Revelation There is no seven year time period recorded in the book of Revelation
NEW MOON
https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/judaica/ejud_0002_0015_0_14794.html
Yom Teruw’ah: “The Day That No Man Knows!”
http://doubleportioninheritance.blogspot.com/2011/05/yom-teruah-day-that-no-man-knows_3315.html
The year of His crucifixion would be 33 Anno Domini, according to our current method of counting solar years. He was murdered on the Cross on the day of preparation, laid in the grave just before nightfall, laid there one full yom, and resurrected on the first day of the week. A year 30 crucifixion is utterly impossible from any standpoint, IMHO.
From here on, I think I'll just sit back and watch the others take your argument down point by point, and see what happens a couple of days from now.
What do you mean by a double Sabbath? I have not heard that term before.
The feast day itself is a sabbath (there are more sabbaths in the Jewish religion than the weekly sabbath); and when it does occur through the shifting of the feast day of the month happening to be coincident with the seventh-day sabbath, it is then a double sabbath; or, in Judaic terminology, a "high holy day."
Jesus and His disciples celebrated the Passover according to the then-Galilean custom, which was to hold it the evening before the Jewish/Judean Passover, which by the Law was on 14 Nisan. So in the year that Jesus was crucified, 14 Nisan was on the seventh day of the week, thus a "double sabbath."
(Anf further, since the evening was not of the Feast of the Unleavened according to the calendar, the bread for the Galilean could be, and was, conducted with leavened bread, artos; not unleavened adzumos.)
Thanks for the clarification. I knew about the high holy day but I have not heard the term “double sabbath”. Is this of your making or is it common usage at your church?
My church doesn’t define my theology. In this case, the coincidence is a double(d) Sabbath, and they both occur on the same day. One is a Fesitval Sabbath (day) and the other is the weekly seventh-day Sabbath. I don’t know how to make it clearer. And I don’t know how “church” enters into this.
So why are you picking on Catholics? Are we just the default punching bag for you guys? What kind of "Christian charity" would that be? "Love your neighbor as your scapegoat"?
Since the hour is late, its time to read up on what the One True God (long before other religions and gods came along) *actually* put in place.
No man who defecated in the Holy Land is going to reappear or give magic carpet rides to heaven before things get crappy, although may just be the greatest sales pitch in the history of the world.
Jewish tradition speaks of two redeemers, each one called Mashiach. Both are involved in ushering in the Messianic era. They are Mashiach ben David and Mashiach ben Yossef.
If you’re a “Gog & Magog” type, ya might want to pay particular attention to Mashiach ben Yossef, and if he is killed, who would do that?...
Moshaich 101: http://www.chabad.org/library/moshiach/article_cdo/aid/101747/jewish/Appendix-II.htm
Gog & Magog 101: http://www.chabad.org/library/moshiach/article_cdo/aid/1108919/jewish/Gog-and-Magog.htm
Christ never uttered one hint that gravity would be suspended. Christ never taught a fly away to save souls. Ezekiel 13:18-20 states emphatically what Jesus thought about a fly away doctrine. Exactly what method of transportation are the fly away doctrine is expecting to use? Christ is coming here on God’s green earth to begin the Lord’s day. Christ became our Temple.
I just didn’t understand the origination of the substitution of “double sabbath” for high holy days which is universally understood.
"After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever." 1 Thessalonians 4:17
Without arguing, a double sabbath is where the High Holy comes from.
I Corinthians 15:51. Paul says Behold, I show you a ‘mystery’...... All will be changed... This flesh age comes to an end.
I'm thinking gravity won't be that much of a challenge to believers.
Not at all...First of the 'signs' of his coming are for the 2nd Coming...And we certainly have wars and rumors of wars right now...That just shows it's close...
For the Rapture, it could come at any time...It doesn't require any signs...
In the current where/when we sense, Gravity is consistent. In the where/when to which GOD will change us fit to dwell, perhaps Gravity will not be what it is in our spacetime.
If you are not in the body of Christ, you certainly will not be escaping the coming Wrath of Daniel's seventieth week. Good luck with that!
Are you a Roodian?
This I don’t understand. I am primarily picking on happy clappy Evangelicals, who are the primary people who hold these views. Catholicism doesn’t hold to the “Left Behind” eschatology, unless that is something else Francis has changed.
BM
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