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The Surprising Reason Why More Americans Are Not Going To Church
The Atlantic via msn ^ | 08-2016

Posted on 08/28/2016 2:41:41 PM PDT by Salvation

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To: ADSUM
Jesus said it is not enough to have faith in him; we also must obey his commandments.

I see that the "Saved by grace; Kept by works" viewpoint has appeared.


John 6:28-29

Then they asked him, “What must we do to do the works God requires?”

Jesus answered, “The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent.”


1 John 3:21-24
Dear friends, if our hearts do not condemn us, we have confidence before God and receive from him anything we ask, because we keep his commands and do what pleases him. And this is his command: to believe in the name of his Son, Jesus Christ, and to love one another as he commanded us.

241 posted on 08/29/2016 6:40:51 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: mn-bush-man
.. we are delighted to see scraggly and flip-flops as they are often being worn by people who have almost nothing and are searching ...

Amen!

Amen!!

AMEN!!!


242 posted on 08/29/2016 6:43:23 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Claud

“Sicut Cervus” is among my favorites. At my son’s home school graduation in June, the TLM Mass of Thanksgiving was served by a dozen of Johnny’s fellow altar boys, many of whom came out of retirement to serve, and the girls’ choir sang “Sicut Cervus,” as well as Mozart’s “Ave Verum Corpus,” and Arcadelt’s “Ave Maria.”

It was magnificent. The young people of our parish-based TLM community are on fire for their faith. They take their jobs MOST seriously, and perform their duties with reverence and piety. At the same time, they are all perfectly normal teens and young adults who have perfectly normal interests. It is not unusual for them to get together on a Friday evening, first for Adoration, and then to a movie, bowling alley, or diner afterwards. We do the young ones a terrible disservice when we assume that they must be entertained by banal services and music.

Regards,


243 posted on 08/29/2016 6:43:34 AM PDT by VermiciousKnid (Sic narro nos totus!)
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To: dragonblustar

PLAN to greet those who you’ve not seen before.

There is time enough to chum with your friends later.


244 posted on 08/29/2016 6:44:44 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Do you need the other members of the Body?

Oh b ut I'm tempted to post something in Green!

245 posted on 08/29/2016 6:45:54 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

We’re talking Pennsyltucky, Elsie. :) There are churches here where you can go barefooted, never mind bare-headed.

I find it jarring, but I’m not a native.


246 posted on 08/29/2016 6:48:10 AM PDT by Buttons12
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To: dragonblustar

https://youtu.be/f68TdgErXkE

I’d love to hear that or even that old time gospel music.


247 posted on 08/29/2016 6:50:53 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Mrs. Don-o; Utah Binger
We need you.

You have it backwards:

"Ex-Catholics make the best Mormons" not the other way around...


http://mormon2catholic.wordpress.com/2006/01/28/catholics-make-good-mormons-but-do-mormons-make-good-catholics/

248 posted on 08/29/2016 6:54:16 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: ReaganGeneration2
Must be Mass, in a church, with others and a priest. No other way.

Sigh...

249 posted on 08/29/2016 6:56:04 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Salvation
I think you are wrong in categorizing ALL churches that way.

Indeed!

It is the Protestant 'churches' that can be lumped together under the ALL label.

250 posted on 08/29/2016 6:57:34 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: dragonblustar
I would have them look at preparing all members for mission work, even if that mission work is just spreading the gospel to their neighbors at home.

Wasn't this the ONLY thing Christ left us to do?

The Great Commission??

251 posted on 08/29/2016 6:58:54 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

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All of the “noble Bereans” today are Netzerim, who keep Yehova’s Sabbath, rather than man’s. But we have tons of illiterate Thessalonians, still expecting a secret rapture.
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252 posted on 08/29/2016 6:59:54 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: BipolarBob
...and proclaimed the Law for believers.

Nope; it was the LAW for the Israelites.


Acts 15

The Council at Jerusalem
 1 Certain people came down from Judea to Antioch and were teaching the believers: "Unless you are circumcised, according to the custom taught by Moses, you cannot be saved." 2 This brought Paul and Barnabas into sharp dispute and debate with them. So Paul and Barnabas were appointed, along with some other believers, to go up to Jerusalem to see the apostles and elders about this question. 3 The church sent them on their way, and as they traveled through Phoenicia and Samaria, they told how the Gentiles had been converted. This news made all the believers very glad. 4 When they came to Jerusalem, they were welcomed by the church and the apostles and elders, to whom they reported everything God had done through them.

 5 Then some of the believers who belonged to the party of the Pharisees stood up and said, "The Gentiles must be circumcised and required to keep the law of Moses."

 6 The apostles and elders met to consider this question. 7 After much discussion, Peter got up and addressed them: "Brothers, you know that some time ago God made a choice among you that the Gentiles might hear from my lips the message of the gospel and believe. 8 God, who knows the heart, showed that he accepted them by giving the Holy Spirit to them, just as he did to us. 9 He did not discriminate between us and them, for he purified their hearts by faith. 10 Now then, why do you try to test God by putting on the necks of Gentiles a yoke that neither we nor our ancestors have been able to bear? 11 No! We believe it is through the grace of our Lord Jesus that we are saved, just as they are."

 12 The whole assembly became silent as they listened to Barnabas and Paul telling about the signs and wonders God had done among the Gentiles through them. 13 When they finished, James spoke up. "Brothers," he said, "listen to me. 14 Simon has described to us how God first intervened to choose a people for his name from the Gentiles. 15 The words of the prophets are in agreement with this, as it is written:

 16 "'After this I will return
   and rebuild David's fallen tent.
Its ruins I will rebuild,
   and I will restore it,
17 that the rest of mankind may seek the Lord,
   even all the Gentiles who bear my name,
says the Lord, who does these things'
 18 things known from long ago.

 19 "It is my judgment, therefore, that we should not make it difficult for the Gentiles who are turning to God. 20 Instead we should write to them, telling them to abstain from food polluted by idols, from sexual immorality, from the meat of strangled animals and from blood. 21 For the law of Moses has been preached in every city from the earliest times and is read in the synagogues on every Sabbath."

The Council's Letter to Gentile Believers
 22 Then the apostles and elders, with the whole church, decided to choose some of their own men and send them to Antioch with Paul and Barnabas. They chose Judas (called Barsabbas) and Silas, men who were leaders among the believers. 23 With them they sent the following letter:

   The apostles and elders, your brothers,

   To the Gentile believers in Antioch, Syria and Cilicia:

   Greetings.

 24 We have heard that some went out from us without our authorization and disturbed you, troubling your minds by what they said. 25 So we all agreed to choose some men and send them to you with our dear friends Barnabas and Paul— 26 men who have risked their lives for the name of our Lord Jesus Christ. 27 Therefore we are sending Judas and Silas to confirm by word of mouth what we are writing. 28 It seemed good to the Holy Spirit and to us not to burden you with anything beyond the following requirements: 29 You are to abstain from food sacrificed to idols, from blood, from the meat of strangled animals and from sexual immorality. You will do well to avoid these things.

   Farewell.

 30 So the men were sent off and went down to Antioch, where they gathered the church together and delivered the letter. 31 The people read it and were glad for its encouraging message. 32 Judas and Silas, who themselves were prophets, said much to encourage and strengthen the believers. 33 After spending some time there, they were sent off by the believers with the blessing of peace to return to those who had sent them. [34] 35 But Paul and Barnabas remained in Antioch, where they and many others taught and preached the word of the Lord.

Disagreement Between Paul and Barnabas
 36 Some time later Paul said to Barnabas, "Let us go back and visit the believers in all the towns where we preached the word of the Lord and see how they are doing." 37 Barnabas wanted to take John, also called Mark, with them, 38 but Paul did not think it wise to take him, because he had deserted them in Pamphylia and had not continued with them in the work. 39 They had such a sharp disagreement that they parted company. Barnabas took Mark and sailed for Cyprus, 40 but Paul chose Silas and left, commended by the believers to the grace of the Lord. 41 He went through Syria and Cilicia, strengthening the churches.
253 posted on 08/29/2016 7:01:19 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
We do not want barriers to leading people to Christ.

AMEN!!!


Luke 14:23
And the master said to the servant, 'Go out into the highways and hedges and compel them to come in, so that my house may be filled.

254 posted on 08/29/2016 7:02:45 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Tax-chick

Yeah; me too!


255 posted on 08/29/2016 7:03:07 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Christ said to Peter:

Get thee behind me Satan.

256 posted on 08/29/2016 7:04:14 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: tiki; dp0622
Ask, I teach Catechism and I’m a convert. I’ve taught every grade from 1st to Confirmation class. There are no dumb questions. You could just message me.

And then; after you are 'taught'; you could check the Scriptures to see if what was 'taught' to you is true.

257 posted on 08/29/2016 7:05:52 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: MHGinTN

Believe what you want. Yet you may be responsible if you reject the teachings of Jesus.Whoever listens to you listens to me. Whoever rejects you rejects me. And whoever rejects me rejects the one who sent me.”Luke 10:16

Yes the Bible is the Word of God, but your interpretation may be False. Just because you repeat the talking points of the protestants, doesn’t mean that you have refuted the Catholic Church or its teachings.

Peace be with you.


258 posted on 08/29/2016 7:06:49 AM PDT by ADSUM
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To: Jim Robinson; Utah Binger
We had some great times up there in God’s country.

Ha!

Last time I was up there (Middle of last June), I was diagnosed with a kidney stone in Moab.

Had to cut short the trip.

259 posted on 08/29/2016 7:09:33 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: mn-bush-man
It is so sad how the ‘church’ has been perverted in far too many situations.


There will come a time when folks will not put up with sound doctrine.

Something about 'itchy ears' was mentioned; too.

260 posted on 08/29/2016 7:11:42 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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