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To: DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis

Those under grace died to the law. We are under grace, not law.

When I get back home, I can post the Scripture if you’d like.

But otherwise read Galatians and Romans 1-8.


601 posted on 08/09/2016 5:48:39 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: metmom; DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis

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>> “Those under grace died to the law. We are under grace, not law.” <<

Grace is not something anyone can be “under.”

Grace is the strength to keep and “affirm” every word of Torah, that is given only to those that love his every word.

That grace does not permit us to sin (i.e. violate Torah) nor is it a license to do so.

1John is the complete guide to this, should you have any questions.


611 posted on 08/09/2016 8:39:06 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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Those under grace died to the law.

So they died to God's Word? But according to the Bible God's Word is life and a blessing. Why would anyone want to die to that?

In the sections where Paul seems to be saying we are no longer under the law, he is not talking about God's Law. He is talking about the law of sin and death (the evil inclinations).

Romans 7:25 Thanks be to God, who delivers me through Jesus Christ our Lord! So then, I myself in my mind am a slave to God’s law, but in my sinful nature a slave to the law of sin.

Paul also says:

Romans 7:14 We know that the law is spiritual; but I am unspiritual, sold as a slave to sin.

He then goes on to conclude:

Romans 8:2 Through Christ Jesus the law of the Spirit who gives life has set you free from the law of sin and death.

Jesus died to free us from the punishment of sin (sin = breaking the law) not, from God's perfect word. After all, Jesus is the Word become flesh, so why would he free us from himself?

BTW you are under no obligation to believe anything I say. This is an area for you to research for yourself if you so desire. :-)

617 posted on 08/09/2016 9:16:39 AM PDT by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis
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