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To: Roman_War_Criminal

RE: “IMHO we’re right on the cusp of the Rapture.

Folks mock it and deny it, but yet, it will happen just like Enoch was “no more”, neither will Christ’s Church be found soon enough.”

Modern Christians are bound to be very disappointed.
The rapture as its taught in modern evangelical churches is Not biblical.
The Reverend Scofield invented rapture doctrine as a way to increase his flock.

No Christian deserves a magic escape ticket.
Especially as we see today the Hundreds of thousands of Coptic, Iraqi and Syrian Christians being beheaded, shot and burned alive all because of their faith.

Tribulation (great difficulty) is what will separate the wheat (truly devoted) from the chaff (weak believers).

Rapture Doctrine invented by John Darby in 1830 AD - Bible.ca

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The fact that John Nelson Darby invented the pre-tribulation rapture doctrine ..... Tim LaHaye, Jack Van Impe and Harold Camping, the Scofield Reference Bible.
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In Christian eschatology the rapture refers to the belief that either before, or simultaneously with ... Brethren, and further popularized in the United States in the early 20th century by the wide circulation of the Scofield Reference Bible.


14 posted on 06/12/2016 8:51:45 PM PDT by MarchonDC09122009 (When is our next march on DC? When have we had enough?)
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To: MarchonDC09122009; Roman_War_Criminal

The ones that deny it are also the ones that have a problem with the blood covering ALL their sins


16 posted on 06/12/2016 8:56:16 PM PDT by Lera ( 1 Corinthians 15:1-4)
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To: MarchonDC09122009
"The fact that John Nelson Darby invented the pre-tribulation rapture doctrine ..." You could benefit from reading around in pre-trib.org. It would bring you more up to date so you don't keep asserting the Darby origins foolishness.
24 posted on 06/12/2016 9:21:25 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Democrats bait then switch; their fishy voters buy it every time.)
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To: MarchonDC09122009

Did you watch Charlie’s sermon? Your position was addresed early on.


29 posted on 06/13/2016 12:44:53 AM PDT by SubMareener (Save us from Quarterly Freepathons! Become a MONTHLY DONOR!e)
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To: MarchonDC09122009

What utter nonsense!


30 posted on 06/13/2016 4:58:29 AM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (God is a racist! Get over it snowflakes. Deuteronomy 7:6-8; Romans 9:13-15)
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To: MarchonDC09122009
No Christian deserves a magic escape ticket.

And here is where your reasoning fell apart.

54 posted on 06/14/2016 1:04:00 PM PDT by DungeonMaster (Rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft.)
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To: MarchonDC09122009

First of all you are right in that no Christian deserves a magic escape ticket...matter of fact we all deserve hell fire! We don’t deserve any sort of salvation, period!

Next, the early church fathers and on down through the ages have spoken of a rapture....the Bible says there is going to be one. The argument is simply the timing of when it will occur. Perhaps Darby and Scofield exploded the concepts beyond the traditional orthodoxical confines in which the rapture was taught but they weren’t the first to speak of it.

Paul spoke of a time “at the last trumpet...”(whether it really meant at the last trumpet sounded by the angel in Revelation or whether it was a euphemism for the “last days” or the last trumpet in terms of wedding feast of Jesus’ era in which the Bride groom would suddenly appear to take his bride) 1 Thessalonians 4:1615By the word of the Lord, we declare to you that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord will by no means precede those who have fallen asleep. 16For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a loud command, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God, and the dead in Christ will be the first to rise. 17After that, we who are alive and remain will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will always be with the Lord.…...

1 Corinthians 15:51Listen, I tell you a mystery: We will not all sleep, but we will all be changed— 52in an instant, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed. 53For the perishable must be clothed with the imperishable, and the mortal with immortality.…(hmm sounds like a certain Handel’s Messiah chorus.....)Yes they knew about the rapture back then!

When it occurs is the what the big fuss is all about...but not the “IF”.

Matthew speaks of the angels gathering up his children in the last days;the rapture or the in gathering of his children so to shield them from the wrath of God to fall upon the earth was promised by Jesus. He did not say we would be in gathered to spare us from persecution but from the wrath of God to fall upon the Earth! Horrible stuff happens in the first 3.5 years of the last seven years but the days of wrath are in the latter half ...and even they would be cut short lest there be no life left on Earth! So the argument is over the timing of his coming in the air to meet us.(with the dead in Christ rising first)


56 posted on 06/14/2016 1:42:49 PM PDT by mdmathis6
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To: MarchonDC09122009; Lera
Revelation 2

20 Nevertheless I have a few things against you, because you allow that woman Jezebel, who calls herself a prophetess, to teach and seduce My servants to commit sexual immorality and eat things sacrificed to idols. 21 And I gave her time to repent of her sexual immorality, and she did not repent. 22 Indeed I will cast her into a sickbed, and those who commit adultery with her into great tribulation, unless they repent of their deeds. 23 I will kill her children with death, and all the churches shall know that I am He who searches the minds and hearts. And I will give to each one of you according to your works.

24 “Now to you I say, and to the rest in Thyatira, as many as do not have this doctrine, who have not known the depths of Satan, as they say, I will put on you no other burden. 25 But hold fast what you have till I come. 26 And he who overcomes, and keeps My works until the end, to him I will give power over the nations—

I will cast her into a sickbed, and those who commit adultery with her into great tribulation

And he who overcomes, and keeps My works until the end

Until the end...

Jezebel = false teaching...

Also:

Matthew 13

36 Then Yeshua sent the multitude away and went into the house. And His disciples came to Him, saying, “Explain to us the parable of the tares of the field.”

37 He answered and said to them: “He who sows the good seed is the Son of Man. 38 The field is the world, the good seeds are the sons of the kingdom, but the tares are the sons of the wicked one. 39 The enemy who sowed them is the devil, the harvest is the end of the age, and the reapers are the angels.

40 Therefore as the tares are gathered and burned in the fire, so it will be at the end of this age. 41 The Son of Man will send out His angels, and they will gather out of His kingdom all things that offend, and those who practice lawlessness, 42 and will cast them into the furnace of fire. There will be wailing and gnashing of teeth. 43 Then the righteous will shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. He who has ears to hear, let him hear!

65 posted on 06/15/2016 6:15:18 PM PDT by Jeremiah Jr (EL CHI)
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