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Broadcaster for Italian Bishops Conference Advertise for Aberrosexuality-Orgies in Rome's Seminaries
The Eponymous Flower ^ | June 9, 2016 | Giuseppe Nardi

Posted on 06/10/2016 8:15:04 AM PDT by ebb tide

A scandal beyond compare took place on June 6 at TV2000, the television station of the Italian Bishops' Conference CEI. During the broadcast "Il diario di Papa Francesco" (The Diary of Pope Francis) a "Christian LGBT" appeared as a guest. The inappropriate label, which wants to suggest a reconciliation of Christianity and homosexuality, was used for the first time in early May in Avvenire, the daily newspaper of the Italian Bishops' Conference. "The concept of choice is as incorrect as if the newspaper of the bishops were written by Christian abortionists'" said Nuova Bussola Quotidiana (NBQ). "The concept of choice is an indicator of the great doctrinal and existential confusion in the Church." TV2000 promotes homosexuality and refers to "Amoris laetitia"

Three self-proclaimed Catholics of the group "Ponti sospesi" (Suspension Bridges) were invited into the studio. The group includes homosexuals who claim to be Christian, but want to live in open contradiction to the Christian faith. It's a contradiction that some Church circles obviously want to overcome by changing the Doctrine of the Faith. The group works closely with several of the "historic" Protestant churches in Italy, like the Evangelical Lutheran Church and the Waldensians (Calvinists). The figure responsible for the media of the Italian Episcopal Conference (CEI) is none other than Bishop Nunzio Galatino, the Secretary-General appointed by Pope Francis to CEI and close confidant of the Pope. The "Christian LGBT" not only feels attracted to persons of the same sex, but are practicing homosexuals and make the claim that the Church has to adapt their lifestyle, since "Love is Love".

"God does everything" - embezzlement of Church teaching

Among the guests were also a nun were without religious habit and a priest, both "convinced" of the fact that God, "because he loves us", accepts all that people do. In this blithe manner, homosexuality was declared "acceptable" on the television channel of the Catholic bishops of Italy in just 20 minutes. The change in direction of 180 degrees was justified by the Apostolic Letter Amoris laetitia of Pope Francis. For this purpose, paragraph 250 was quoted as saying: "to ensssure a respectful assistance, so that those who show homosexual tendency can get the necessary help in order to understand the will of God in their lives and to fulfill it completely."

Not a word of the Church's teaching was mentioned, what is the will of God when it comes to homosexuality, which is referred to in Scripture as "blatant sin." Some theologians go so far as to say that because of the choice of words of Scripture that it is the worse among the deadly sins in God's eyes, because it is a direct attack against the divine order that God's nature is based.

Colleen Bayer defends Catholic doctrine and criticized Cardinal Schönborn

Colleen Bayer with Cardinal Burke

While the television station of the bishops courted homosexuality, embezzling Church doctrine to accomplish this, and the resulting darkening existential drama, there rose simultaneously in Rome a courageous voice in defense of doctrine, which is entrusted to the Church by revelation and taught by it for 2000 years, Colleen Bayer, Chair of Family Life International from New Zealand said in a lecture at the same time on June 6, which is used as video recording on the Internet, some episodes that have to do with the gender ideology and homosexuality. Bayer began with a critique of Vienna's Archbishop Cardinal Christoph Schönborn, who presented Amoris laetitia presented on April 8, to the world public. This had been a "huge mistake" of Cardinal, to speak of "positive elements" in the context of homosexuality. This erroneous view had been aired by the Cardinal already in an interview with the Jesuit magazine Civilta Cattolic in 2015 when he said: "It is not for the Church to look in the bedroom in the first place, but in the dining room." Such arbitrary and unrealistic statements were "rubbish , pure trash," said Bayer. "A priest friend of ours lost his life because of what happened in the bedroom. Please pray for his soul."

Existential Drama - gay orgies among Roman seminarians

The woman then told the story of a young Anglican who converted to Catholicism in Rome entered a seminary after he told his superiors about his concerns and efforts, what his interpersonal relationships were, and that he was concerned because he felt attracted to men. Nevertheless, he was ordained a priest and sent to New Zealand five years of the priesthood where he was unable to overcome his mental turmoil and his desires.

At that time, the priest learned of the Bayer couple, confided in them and asked for their help.

"He told us, 'You do not know what we have done in Rome on Friday night. We met ... ', and they did do what homosexuals do. "On this occasion," he revealed to us the Roman parties on Friday evening with other seminarians "who" ended in homosexual orgies."

At this moment you have the revelation "almost a broken heart," said Bayer. "Until then, I thought that we all worship God in the Church under the dome of Rome, and a trip to Rome is a journey home. To learn that such things happen in the seminaries of this city ... "

The young, desperate priest revealed "the devastation, the dirt and things that have happened that are terrible ..." Bayer then inquired of those responsible who take such psychically torn people into the seminaries, and described the fears of the young convert and Priest of the inner contradiction of his life which eventually led to suicide.

"How in God's name could such a thing happen under the dome of Rome? So how can a Cardinal of Rome maintain something like this?"

People with a homosexual inclination have an identity problem, which could be an existential drama for them. They must be helped to find their identity. They should not be encouraged to fall into a perversity.

Existential Drama - Violent lesbian relationship

Bayer reported then about a pregnant girl who was abused by her feminist, pro-abortion "fiance". The sexual relationship between the two women had been violent and possessive: "When I saw the body of Jackie, my heart wept. She was covered with scars and fresh cuts and other injuries. Terrible violence was done to her in her life in a terrible manner." That was not done independently of the sex of the partner.

Bayer came to the conclusion that the doctrine entrusted by Christ to the Church that warns against homosexuality and rejects this, is more human, honest and compassionate than any arbitrary, ideological or some stirred up worldly sauce, which is passed off as an alleged "love of God." It is enough to read Luca Di Tolve, who after his conversion and a Christian psychotherapy, finally found his true destination in love for a woman.

In his book "I was gay. I Found Myself in Medjugorje", Di Tolve described the compulsive drive for satisfaction, but unfulfilling nature of homosexual relationships, the drifting into despair: "The deep motivation that drives homosexual behavior is always the same: the search for the male traits, which can not be expressed in one's self. "His own sex could not unfold properly in himself for some reason.. Homosexuals, therefore, have a broken nature. "A man and a woman seen in the difference how much they complement each other to form the foundation of a family, a whole. Two men or two women can never reach this supplement and perfection. A mature man and a mature woman do not remain at the level of a mere impulse for satisfaction like immature teenagers who don't grow up.

Christ and the Church Denounce Every Lie, to combat delusions

"Therefore," said Di Tolve, "I could never find peace in sex with men." He found the strength to seek a way out, and went in search of masculinity in itself, rather than seek his own in other ,"So I found my identity. With my identity and therefore with myself at peace, I was able to leave homosexuality behind me and I finally engage in the opposite sex and got to know my wife."

"Christ and the Church have a great heart's desire," says Bayer, "that every lie, the delusions, are fought with courage and strength."

It seems that the current penetration of homosexuality in the Church, has penetrated through fifth columns and weak resistance, has shown to be true what the Blessed Mother said in 1995 in Civitavecchia, where a statue of Mary cries blood. The phenomenon is maintained by the competent Bishop Girolamo Grillo for real. An official decision by the Catholic Church is still outstanding. The Mother of God had said at the time:

"My children, the darkness of Satan has darkened the world and also darkens the Church of God. In Rome, the darkness sets more and more about the rock that my son Jesus left to build up his children, to educate and to grow spiritually. "

Given the apostasy, says Bayer, "one has to be conscious of the claws of Satan and seek God's hands and hold them" so that God "can us lead out of the swamp" by "men and women of God" and by "orthodoxy".

TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Moral Issues
KEYWORDS: francischurch; homos; homosexualagenda; pansexuals; pontisospesi; religiousleft

1 posted on 06/10/2016 8:15:04 AM PDT by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

Is it just me, or did I go to sleep in the USA about 10 years ago and wake up in ancient Rome? Nothing seems familiar. Nothing is sane. This whole thing is going to end like the roman empire did... with a thousand years of darkness. Pity. I would have liked to colonize space.

2 posted on 06/10/2016 8:21:38 AM PDT by lafroste
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To: lafroste

It’s not just you. I’m 35 and this isn’t the same USA as 10 years ago, let alone the one in which I was raised. The speed of our decay morally, politically, and culturally is breath taking.

3 posted on 06/10/2016 8:24:56 AM PDT by mrmeyer (You can't conquer a free man; the most you can do is kill him. Robert Heinlein)
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To: ebb tide

If we are not living in the end times, we are very close to it. Either way, stop the world, I want to get off.

4 posted on 06/10/2016 8:25:56 AM PDT by Robert DeLong (u)
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To: lafroste; mrmeyer

Obama fundamentally transformed America, Francis fundamentally transformed the Catholic Church. Amazing what damage two people can do.

5 posted on 06/10/2016 8:48:31 AM PDT by aquila48
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To: Robert DeLong

Back up the turnip truck.

Where is your faith?

The darkness cannot stand the light.

God will always prevail.


No the world really sucks it is not the same.

BUT God never changes......comon join me!

And it is hard to stay positive I know this. Faith!

6 posted on 06/10/2016 8:50:38 AM PDT by Uversabound (Our Military past and present: Our Highest example of Brotherhood of Man & Doing God's Will)
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To: Uversabound

Oh I have faith, still doesn’t change how I feel about the direction the world is going in. I wish more people had faith, for then we would not have these issues.

7 posted on 06/10/2016 9:01:00 AM PDT by Robert DeLong (u)
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To: Uversabound


8 posted on 06/10/2016 9:04:59 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("All times are dangerous times." - St. Teresa of Avila)
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To: ebb tide

Don’t these twits know their own history. This is precisely what St. Paul was up against in his travels as he was taking the knowledge of Jesus Christ to the gentiles.

9 posted on 06/10/2016 9:05:52 AM PDT by Parmy (II don't know how to past the images.)
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To: Uversabound
This is just more evidence of a world gone mad
10 posted on 06/10/2016 9:06:14 AM PDT by Robert DeLong (u)
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To: lafroste

I agree with you. It’s insane.

11 posted on 06/10/2016 9:13:22 AM PDT by Bridesheadfan
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To: ebb tide
Martin Luther was right about the Roman Catholic Church in his book, "Babylonian Captivity of the Church." By keeping God's Word from the people, joining with Islam by saying we worship the same god, creating ungodly laws like priestly celibacy, confessionals, and transubstantiation, the Roman Church has become the homosexual infested Mother of Harlots of Revelation 17-18. To those who still have a soul, the Word of God says, "Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues. 5 For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities..."

Revelation 17:1 And there came one of the seven angels which had the seven vials, and talked with me, saying unto me, Come hither; I will shew unto thee the judgment of the great whore that sitteth upon many waters: 2 With whom the kings of the earth have committed fornication, and the inhabitants of the earth have been made drunk with the wine of her fornication. 3 So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns. 4 And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication: 5 And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH. 6 And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration.
12 posted on 06/10/2016 9:49:39 AM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: aquila48

To those who only believe in Man and not God!

13 posted on 06/10/2016 11:27:13 AM PDT by Harpotoo
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To: ebb tide


14 posted on 06/10/2016 11:58:22 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ("We can't fix a rigged system by relying on the people who rigged it." --Donald Trump, 6/7/16)
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To: ebb tide
"How in God's name could such a thing happen under the dome of Rome? So how can a Cardinal of Rome maintain something like this?"

"Once, while approaching to receive Communion, I saw with my soul's eyes more clearly than with my bodily eyes two devils whose appearance was abominable. It seems to me their horns were wrapped around the poor priests's throat..."

Saint Teresa's Vision of the demons

15 posted on 06/10/2016 2:07:28 PM PDT by BlatherNaut
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To: ebb tide

I think I read this the other day, but does anyone have links about homosexual priests raping boys? I’m having an argument with someone, and those links are hard to find. Google keeps giving me links that say how homosexuals aren’t pedophiles. Google used to be so accurate and thorough.

16 posted on 06/10/2016 2:20:26 PM PDT by NetAddicted (Just looking)
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To: ebb tide

Psalm 50: 16-23 (NIV):

16 But to the wicked person, God says:
“What right have you to recite my laws
or take my covenant on your lips?
17 You hate my instruction
and cast my words behind you.
18 When you see a thief, you join with him;
you throw in your lot with adulterers.
19 You use your mouth for evil
and harness your tongue to deceit.
20 You sit and testify against your brother
and slander your own mother’s son.
21 When you did these things and I kept silent,
you thought I was exactly[c] like you.
But I now arraign you
and set my accusations before you.
22 “Consider this, you who forget God,
or I will tear you to pieces, with no one to rescue you:
23 Those who sacrifice thank offerings honor me,
and to the blameless[d] I will show my salvation.”

17 posted on 06/10/2016 9:45:46 PM PDT by Some Fat Guy in L.A. (Still bitterly clinging to rational thought despite it's unfashionability)
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To: mrmeyer
I’m 35 and this isn’t the same USA as 10 years ago, let alone the one in which I was raised. The speed of our decay morally, politically, and culturally is breath taking.

The elements were sneaked into place years ago; but the catalyst was added in 2008.

18 posted on 06/11/2016 10:32:43 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ("We can't fix a rigged system by relying on the people who rigged it." --Donald Trump, 6/7/16)
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