[terycarl]

Yes outward signs, but they DON’T give grace. Grace ISN’T given by the sacraments, but directly from God himself.

Well of course the Grace comes from God....sheesh...but He sends it through the Sacraments which He Himself ordained

[mrobisr]

“Well of course the Grace comes from God....sheesh...but He sends it through the Sacraments which He Himself ordained”

No, he doesn’t send them through the sacraments he sends them through Christ Jesus straight to the believer at the foot of the cross. Stick with your original answer of outward expressions or did they threaten to cast you out of the rcc . Contary to the rcc the thief on the cross didn’t recieve any sacraments just pure Grace and we know for a fact he went to Heaven! Now that’s finished answer the question that I have asked you twice.

[Elsie]

Well of course the Grace comes from God....sheesh...but He sends it through the Sacraments which He Himself ordained

Then he said, "Jesus, remember me when you come into your kingdom." 

He replied to him, "I say to you today; you will need to have seven sacrements.  You don't have enough time left.  Sorry."