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Stop Calling Ted Cruz a Dominionist
Christianity Today ^ | April 6, 2016 | Robert Gagnon and Edith Humphrey

Posted on 04/07/2016 8:19:59 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: HiTech RedNeck

I was wrong...took a little more research. He sold out of the Trump company that owned the property before the Scores opened.


101 posted on 04/07/2016 9:42:21 PM PDT by perfect_rovian_storm
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To: perfect_rovian_storm

So whew, which was it.

Somehow I thought that if it was a live scandal, it would have come up in places less obscure than FR by now.

Good on Donald to have at least tried to salvage the Trump brand from the scandal.


102 posted on 04/07/2016 9:42:55 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Jane Long; perfect_rovian_storm
As another poster mentioned, upthread, this was after Trump had sold the property.

Actually he (post 67) said was "What I have heard" but he gave no link to prove what he said.

103 posted on 04/07/2016 9:43:19 PM PDT by LowOiL (In America today, it is considered worse to judge evil than to do evil - Burk Parsons)
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To: Linda Frances

“Here’s his interview saying he’s for universal health care.”

I don’t know why you bothered to post this. He never said Universal Health Care or ObamaCare. You do know that in the many years before ObamaCare, the taxpayers paid for health care for people without insurance.

And Trump said he would like to change the way NATO is funded, not get rid of it. By the way, his views were backed up by the senators who, just yesterday, were complaining to the Secretary General of Nato in DC.


104 posted on 04/07/2016 9:44:48 PM PDT by MaxistheBest
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To: LowOiL

Figures that you low information Cruz types would need someone to do your research for you.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_Taj_Mahal

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_Entertainment_Resorts

Seriously. Stop lazily believing everything bad you hear about Trump and start investigating things for yourself.


105 posted on 04/07/2016 9:45:49 PM PDT by perfect_rovian_storm
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To: LowOiL; perfect_rovian_storm; High-tech Redneck

Good gosh, lil owl....do your own homework, so you don’t promote false info.....

http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/chi-trump-name-casinos-20140806-story.html

Lots of other articles about him removing his name, due to not owning this property anymore, out there.

Google is your friend.


106 posted on 04/07/2016 9:47:05 PM PDT by Jane Long (Go Trump, go! Make America Safe Again :)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Tithing. I was not raised in a church that practiced tithing but I have been told that tithing is an old testament tradition/law and we are not under the OT laws.


107 posted on 04/07/2016 9:47:28 PM PDT by hsmomx3
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To: perfect_rovian_storm

LOL....GMTA


108 posted on 04/07/2016 9:47:32 PM PDT by Jane Long (Go Trump, go! Make America Safe Again :)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; All

Look, I’m sorry I lost it. I was so angry over lies about Cruz even being a true Christian. God will sort it all out. I am not to judge a person’s heart. Sorry I called someone evil, that link you posted was evil, not you. Goodnight.


109 posted on 04/07/2016 9:47:43 PM PDT by Linda Frances (Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness.)
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To: imardmd1

Frankly I wouldn’t expect either Ted or Donald to be telling me how to worship.

But Donald is less likely to try.

Just being a believer (which Ted probably is) doesn’t mean he is going to use associated spiritual capabilities to God’s glory.


110 posted on 04/07/2016 9:47:59 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Linda Frances

And yet, Linda, here is his health care plan:

https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions/healthcare-reform

When you ignore new information that sheds light on Trump’s position so you can use a murky interview and interpret it in a way that you can mischaracterize, that is LYING.

So, I trust you can stop lying about this too. Thank you.

That’s the second lie we’ve caught you in on just this thread. No wonder you support Ted. Birds of a feather. We’re gonna have to start calling you Lyin’ Linda soon.


111 posted on 04/07/2016 9:49:45 PM PDT by perfect_rovian_storm
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It would help greatly, in determining whether or not Cruz is a Dominionist, if we were to understand Christian eschatology. Dominionism is Post-millennialism eschatology, usually in combination with Preterism.

In this form of eschatology, there is no “end time” ahead of us, no future antichrist, end time prophecy has already been fulfilled (in 70 AD). With the end time in the past, all that lies before those that believe this, is Christianity conquering the world, taking “dominion” over it.

In short, the bringing in of a one world Christian theocracy - which theologians call the “Millennium” (thousand year kingdom of Christ) As to the second coming of Christ, that occurs AFTER the Millennium.

Does Ted Cruz believe in this form of doctrine? Even more significant, does his preacher Dad believe it? Absolutely NOT. Both are Premillennial Baptists - which is NOT Dominionist, Postmillennialist nor Preterist.

To identify Ted Cruz with this belief, is slander of the first order. An absolute lie.

How one believes about Israel is a clear identifier as to whether one is a Postmill Preterist or not (a Dominionist). Premillennialists are extremely pro-Israel, Cruz is a fierce defender of Israel.


112 posted on 04/07/2016 9:50:48 PM PDT by sasportas
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To: hsmomx3

A custom of giving has been adopted by many churches that they call tithing.

But if something like the Old Testament tithe system was actually reproduced, churches or church families would be throwing big witnessing parties every year with the proceeds.


113 posted on 04/07/2016 9:51:01 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: sasportas

There isn’t any pope of Protestant belief and they are all over the map with favored interpretations.

What I’m curious about is what has produced the unequal yoking with Glenn Beck?


114 posted on 04/07/2016 9:53:47 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: The Citizen Soldier
I wonder if any of these words apply to Cruz: robber, self-indulgent, appearing one way outwardly but actually quite different inwardly.

In this thread, one thing brought up about Cruz is his history of not tithing. It is a valid issue. One that Cruz admitted was a weakness and he needed to do better. He made no excuse about it, it was an area he said he needed to work on. He did not say, he didn't need forgiveness here, he didn't say he was above having to ask forgiveness, he admitted his shortcoming. The buck stopped with him. No deflection, just taking it like a imperfect man.

And Nathan said to David, "The LORD also has taken away your sin; you shall not die. "However, because by this deed you have given occasion to the enemies of the LORD to blaspheme -2 Samuel 12

Now what did Cruz's lack of tithing do? It gave people who are enemies of the Lord great occasion to blaspheme... we see it right here on this thread. We see it daily on threads where people post stuff like "holy roller" and "hypocrite".

115 posted on 04/07/2016 9:55:16 PM PDT by LowOiL (In America today, it is considered worse to judge evil than to do evil - Burk Parsons)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Well I read one post. That’s enough. Is it only Trump supporters who claim these wild ideas about Cruz? They obviously have never heard him speak or done research on him.


116 posted on 04/07/2016 10:01:38 PM PDT by libbylu (Cruz: The truth with a smile.)
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To: imardmd1

I agree.

There was an article posted here a few days ago that implied Trump started out this run for POTUS as an experiment and that he was surprised at how he has been received never thinking it would go this far. I get the impression looking at how ill prepared he has been on specifics and facts a president should know about that he might actually be regretting letting his huge ego take him this far. I can’t see him in a position as a “public servant” seeing as he has always been the one served.

No candidate is perfect, but of the four running, I think Cruz would be more in line with genuine Conservative principles. The OP on this thread explains well his experience with and defense of Constitutional laws.


117 posted on 04/07/2016 10:04:40 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: LowOiL

Well if anything he bowed to the “Christian world.”

He could have been sharper and said that he gives freewill and the amount is between himself and Jesus.

And that would have stopped it, or should have. He is in the worst of both worlds.


118 posted on 04/07/2016 10:04:58 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

as best I can figure out about Dominionism, there is a straight-line relationship between politicians (”anointed kings”) and the clergy, each actively furthering the other.

Back in 2015, Cruz was criticized for asking preachers to read a sermon Cruz authored, which was against some law:
https://www.rawstory.com/2015/08/ted-cruz-instructs-thousands-of-pastors-to-violate-federal-law-by-reading-sunday-sermon-he-wrote/

I was reminded of this 2015 incident when I saw that Cruz’s first two days in NY were spent with ‘men of the cloth’ rather than ‘general public’ appearances.

Now these may be purely social visits, although it seems a little odd, as far behind as Cruz is in the polls, that he would blow off public campaigning. But if it comes out that he is actively campaigning pastors to influence their clergies, then I’d say there’s a strong possibility he is a Dominionist.


119 posted on 04/07/2016 10:06:28 PM PDT by blueplum (March 11, 2016 - the day the First Amendment died?)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Dominionator?

Excellent! Just needs a TM.

120 posted on 04/07/2016 10:10:02 PM PDT by snarkpup (I want a government small enough that my main concern in life doesn't need to be who's running it.)
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