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Perpetual virginity
OSV.com ^ | 03-09-16 | Msgr. Charles Pope

Posted on 03/12/2016 9:36:07 AM PST by Salvation

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To: terycarl
Catholics take for granted that the church which assembled the book is more capable of properly interpreting it than are the average 25 year old Christian followers.

Well, there's a big part of their problem.

Relying on someone else to do your thinking for you never ends well.

601 posted on 03/15/2016 5:36:00 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: Elsie

The poster originally answered ‘No he didn’t’ to the sentence I wrote that you quoted, that Jesus left the tomb without rolling away the stone. The poster cannot help his confusion with that coat of magicsteeringthem draped over his eyes.


602 posted on 03/15/2016 5:36:46 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Democrats bait then switch; their fishy voters buy it every time.)
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To: rwa265
Good grief.

You accept context in one place but not the other only because it agrees with catholic teaching.

Well, I've offered example after example from the NT that indicates He did indeed have brothers and sisters. It has been supported in the Greek and within context.

If you, and other catholics, want to persist in believing non-Biblical writings regarding Mary as a perpetual virgin, in contradiction of what the NT shows, I cannot help you.

603 posted on 03/15/2016 5:37:05 AM PDT by ealgeone
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To: verga; Religion Moderator
The moderator is forcing me to suggesting that I change my tagline. He/ she doesn't feel that id est quod id est, which clearly means "it is what it is" is a common enough phrase.


Keep poking the dragon...

You don't like Prots posting Scripture.

You don't like being TOLD; by a Higher Power than yourself; what to do.

Is there ANYTHING that makes you happy?

604 posted on 03/15/2016 5:37:57 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: DungeonMaster; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; boatbums; caww; CynicalBear; daniel1212; dragonblustar; ...
It was Mary who nursed him, fed him, cared for him, reared him, and sacrificed him for us.

Nonsense and blasphemy.

Mary did NOT sacrifice Him for us. He wasn't hers to offer. Honestly, the nonsense Catholics believe to deify Mary is appalling.

605 posted on 03/15/2016 5:40:18 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: verga
(Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutley.)


606 posted on 03/15/2016 5:41:31 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: metmom
Mary did NOT sacrifice Him for us. He wasn't hers to offer. Honestly, the nonsense Catholics believe to deify Mary is appalling.

When I found De Montfort I thought I found the pinnacle of such thinking. I was wrong. There have been many others who believe write the same things.

607 posted on 03/15/2016 5:43:28 AM PDT by DungeonMaster (the devil walks about like a roaring lion, seeking whom he may devour.)
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To: DungeonMaster

http://www.hebroots.org/hebrootsarchive/9901/9901_q.html


608 posted on 03/15/2016 5:44:21 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Democrats bait then switch; their fishy voters buy it every time.)
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To: verga


(Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutley.)



609 posted on 03/15/2016 5:44:48 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: rwa265
Until you stop posting comments that distort what the Catholic Church proclaims, your posts are of little or no value.


"One indeed is the universal Church of the faithful, outside which no one at all is saved, in which the priest himself is the sacrifice, Jesus Christ, whose body and blood are truly contained in the sacrament of the altar under the species of bread and wine; the bread (changed) into His body by the divine power of transubstantiation, and the wine into the blood, so that to accomplish the mystery of unity we ourselves receive from His (nature) what He Himself received from ours."

--Pope Innocent III and Lateran Council IV (A.D. 1215)

 

 

Therefore, if anyone says that it is not by the institution of Christ the lord himself (that is to say, by divine law) that blessed Peter should have perpetual successors in the primacy over the whole Church; or that the Roman Pontiff is not the successor of blessed Peter in this primacy: let him be anathema.

--Vatican 1, Ses. 4, Cp. 1

610 posted on 03/15/2016 5:46:32 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: MHGinTN

Thanks, I soon discovered that wiki was not satisfactory.


611 posted on 03/15/2016 5:47:15 AM PDT by DungeonMaster (the devil walks about like a roaring lion, seeking whom he may devour.)
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To: rwa265; verga
The context is clear in this passage, and the commentaries are very much in agreement.

That's because we can READ it in English; NOT Latin!



Poor Verga. Everbody picks on him...

612 posted on 03/15/2016 5:48:28 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: rwa265
(4) the absence of any later mention of the sisters at or after the time of the Crucifixion suggests the same conclusion, as falling in with the idea of the sisters and brethren being in some sense a distinct family, with divided interests;

Not much mention of Mary either; but THAT little fact hasn't stopped Rome from ALLOWING all sorts of FANTASIES to spring up about her!

613 posted on 03/15/2016 5:50:22 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: DungeonMaster
...be united with her in one sacrifice and be immolated with her consent to the eternal Father, ...


WHAT???


614 posted on 03/15/2016 5:53:09 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

Notice the position of the idol of Semiramis and Tammuz, er, I mean Mary (the larger figure) holding the baby?


615 posted on 03/15/2016 5:55:46 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Democrats bait then switch; their fishy voters buy it every time.)
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To: DungeonMaster
It was Mary who nursed him, fed him, cared for him, reared him, and sacrificed him for us.

WHAT??!!


Romans 3:25
God presented Christ as a sacrifice of atonement, through the shedding of his blood--to be received by faith. He did this to demonstrate his righteousness, because in his forbearance he had left the sins committed beforehand unpunished--



There you have it folks!

Mary is GOD!!


616 posted on 03/15/2016 5:55:47 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: MHGinTN; Tennessee Nana

Good morning to all you folks in Tennessee!

Have y’all been soaked the last couple of days?

My place is a vast, muddy plain!

The goats HATE it, but the ducks LOVE it!


617 posted on 03/15/2016 5:58:39 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

How does the catholic Bible present that passage from Romans ... is there wiggle room?


618 posted on 03/15/2016 5:59:29 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Democrats bait then switch; their fishy voters buy it every time.)
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To: Elsie

Very wet here, but this morning the Sun is shining brightly ... before the evening T-storms arrive.


619 posted on 03/15/2016 6:00:48 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Democrats bait then switch; their fishy voters buy it every time.)
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To: MHGinTN

HMMMmmm...

Genesis Chapter 10

8 And Cush begat Nimrod: he began to be a mighty one in the earth.

9 He was a mighty hunter before the LORD: wherefore it is said, Even as Nimrod the mighty hunter before the LORD.

10 And the beginning of his kingdom was Babel, and Erech, and Accad, and Calneh, in the land of Shinar.


620 posted on 03/15/2016 6:03:33 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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