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To: heterosupremacist
>>Doh!! what I meant to say is this: redemption is NOT salvation, Salvation requires obedience to the Ten Commandments.<<

Romans 10:9 King James Version (KJV) 9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

Ephesians 2:8-9 King James Version (KJV) 8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.

If you could save yourself by following the law then Jesus wouldn't have needed to die for our sins and our salvation would depend on our works, which are like filthy rags in the sight of God. As a believer what if I sinned and died before I could ask for forgiveness?

If there was a way to lose your salvation, we all would lose it. Our salvation is dependant on God's grace. There are those who may pray a prayer but never truly repent in their hearts, but they weren't saved to begin with. Once we are truly saved we are sealed with The Holy Spirit, who gives us the desire to follow God's commandments.

31 posted on 01/18/2016 12:37:16 PM PST by Smittie (Just like an alien, I'm a stranger in a strange land)
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To: Smittie

Coming to FR and discussing religion (especially True Christianity) is like having to swim in raw sewage sometimes.

So many folks are strung up on cults, and works-based theology. Others insist you must be “baptized” (the right way) to be saved.

If we work for our salvation, and must do something to attain it, we can also do something to lose it. Being sealed with the Holy Spirit is eternal. It’s not until the “next time I sin”.

Romans 10:9-10
John 6:29
Romans 4:5-6
Romans 3:22
Acts 16:31
Mark 16:16
John 3:36
John 11:25
John 14:6


38 posted on 01/18/2016 12:56:10 PM PST by Roman_War_Criminal
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To: Smittie

**Romans 10:9
Ephesians 2:8-9**

Those two epistles, as were all of them, written to souls that already were born again, or at least knew how. The first few verses in most of them make that clear. Hebrews requires further reading, but gets there.


46 posted on 01/18/2016 8:19:58 PM PST by Zuriel (Acts 2:38,39....Do you believe it?)
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