[xzins]

I have personally listened to an entire Osteen talk in which he did not say “Jesus” even once.

[GBA]

Really? That's difficult for me to accept, but I won't argue with you. You know what you know.

I started listening to his sermons on sat. radio while driving around town and on those many road trips to/from Florida, plus I now also watch him on Sundays, too, so I now have a decent familiarity with what he says based upon lots of experience.

I'm not saying that you're mistaken, just that I have yet to hear what you've claimed.

I guess if that had been my only experience and I already had a built-in aversion to someone like Osteen or to him specifically, then perhaps I would say the same things you are saying.

As it is, what I've heard so far has been very helpful and valuable for improving and deepening my relationship with my Creator, Savior and His Holy Spirit and for not helping me to spot and not fall for Satan's tricks and traps.

I now am doing some of what Osteen says to do and have the results Osteen speaks of.

Whether he listens to Osteen or not, Derrick Henry is saying the things I hear Osteen say every sermon.

Obviously, ymmv, of course.

[DavidLSpud]

“I have personally listened to an entire Osteen talk in which he did not say
Jesus
even once.”

Without Jesus...

you “got” Nothing.

With Jesus, you have EVERYTHING !

John 14:23 Jesus replied, Anyone who loves me will obey my teaching. My Father will love them, and we will come to them and make our home with them.

John 14:24 Anyone who does not love me will not obey my teaching. These words you hear are not my own; they belong to the Father who sent me.

https://www.biblegateway.com/quicksearch/?qs_version=NIV&quicksearch=obey&begin=50&end=50