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Really? That's difficult for me to accept, but I won't argue with you. You know what you know.

I started listening to his sermons on sat. radio while driving around town and on those many road trips to/from Florida, plus I now also watch him on Sundays, too, so I now have a decent familiarity with what he says based upon lots of experience.

I'm not saying that you're mistaken, just that I have yet to hear what you've claimed.

I guess if that had been my only experience and I already had a built-in aversion to someone like Osteen or to him specifically, then perhaps I would say the same things you are saying.

As it is, what I've heard so far has been very helpful and valuable for improving and deepening my relationship with my Creator, Savior and His Holy Spirit and for not helping me to spot and not fall for Satan's tricks and traps.

I now am doing some of what Osteen says to do and have the results Osteen speaks of.

Whether he listens to Osteen or not, Derrick Henry is saying the things I hear Osteen say every sermon.

Obviously, ymmv, of course.

I don’t have a built-in aversion to Osteen. I have liked a number of his brief devotions that have been posted on the religion forum. However, the day I went to a sermon on TV to listen, Jesus wasn’t mentioned.

As a retired Army chaplain, and a current pastor who goes through the bible chapter by chapter, that stuck out for me. I don’t think I’m unnecessarily hard on anyone. Take that with a grain of salt if you will, because it’s me reporting on me, but being an Army chaplain means that you have to get along with a huge variety of religious people.

I do grit my teeth when I believe a speaker has made unfounded claims about a scripture they are explaining, or when they use a scripture as a launching pad to go off in their own direction.

Wow, did I ever screw that up correcting my sentence the first few times and then I posted the screw up!

I said: "for not helping me to spot and not fall for Satan's tricks and traps."

I guess Satan got me that time! Lol...I should have said: "for helping me to spot and not fall for Satan's tricks and traps."

Sorry about that one and for all the rest!

Sigh...no wonder my mom would send my letters home from school back to me with my grammar and spelling errors corrected in red ink.

Oh well...too bad it didn't take with me. Sorry, Mom...it's not your fault.