“No there were definitely non-Jews in the Jewish temples of Jesus’ time.”
As I stated before: That’s irrelevant since it was a JEWISH TEMPLE.
Jesus was not invading pagan temples. Your insistence that there were non-Jews in the Temple doesn’t mean anything since it wasn’t a pagan temple. IT WAS A JEWISH TEMPLE. Again, what part of that do you not understand?
“You’re Catholic and so you follow the traditions of man which make void the Word of God.”
Gee, no bias in that comment, huh?
“You don’t study the bible enough to know what happened to the temples from the time of the Judges to the time of Jesus.”
Actually, I probably no more about it than you ever will. Not only have I studied that era in detail in scripture but I have read other books about it as well. The history of the Temple has always fascinated me. Have you ever read G.K. Beale’s The Temple and the Church’s Mission? I read it 6 years ago this week. (I only know that because when I go to Amazon to get the link to it it tells me when I purchased it): http://www.amazon.com/Temple-Churchs-Mission-Biblical-Theology/dp/0830826181/ref=asap_bc?ie=UTF8 I have a very large library of Bibles, Study Bibles, Bible commentaries, monographs and so on related to scripture. It would not be smart for anyone to presume I have not studied the Bible in detail.
“You need to do a study on the Nethanims. The Nethanims are descended from those God told the Israelites to absolutely wipe out but the Israelites didn’t when they entered the promised land.”
Perhaps you mean the Nethinim. Please note the modern correct spelling. And, by the way, no “s” is required to make it a plural. That may have been in fashion in 1611, but it isn’t now. Also, if you’re using the Nethinim for some sort of point, it won’t work.
“So you’re wrong coming out the gate.”
No, actually what I said is still 100% correct. After all the situation would have to be reversed to apply to the situation at hand. And it isn’t. It’s just that simple. Remember, this was never about non-Jews in the Temple - of which there were effectively none at the time of Jesus in any of the Jewish worship areas. It was a Jewish Temple. It was NOT a pagan temple being invaded by Jesus or St. Paul. Thus, what I said is still 100% correct.
You then posted a long comment about the Nethinim, but, of course, none of that matters since it has no bearing whatsoever on the actions of Jesus or St. Paul since neither of them invaded a pagan temple.
“In post #50, you told another poster his Jesus example did not involve non-Jews. That is absolutely incorrect.”
False. In post #50 you’ll see the example given was about Jesus and the money changers. They were not pagans in a pagan temple. Thus, in any case what I said was absolutely correct. Your example MUST BE about Jesus or St. Paul INVADING a pagan temple to interrupt the worship of pagans. Do you have one? There is no such example recorded in history. And the Nethinim don’t qualify since they were not around at the time of Jesus or St. Paul and they were not in a pagan temple having their worship interrupted by Jesus or St. Paul.
Logic.
It means everything because of your claim of perfection. In post #50, you told another poster that his example of Jesus whipping the moneychangers did not involve non-Jews. Anybody that studies the bible more than Catholics knows the temples were taken over by foreigners by Jesus' time, so you're dead wrong.
Gee, no bias in that comment, huh?
I'm as biased as you are.
Actually, I probably no more about it than you ever will. Not only have I studied that era in detail in scripture but I have read other books about it as well. The history of the Temple has always fascinated me. Have you ever read G.K. Beale’s The Temple and the Church’s Mission? I read it 6 years ago this week. (I only know that because when I go to Amazon to get the link to it it tells me when I purchased it): http://www.amazon.com/Temple-Churchs-Mission-Biblical-Theology/dp/0830826181/ref=asap_bc?ie=UTF8 I have a very large library of Bibles, Study Bibles, Bible commentaries, monographs and so on related to scripture. It would not be smart for anyone to presume I have not studied the Bible in detail.
But yet you did not know there were Levites, Benjamites, Nethanims, and Edomites in the temples in Jesus' time. You have a problem with retention, apparently.
Perhaps you mean the Nethinim. Please note the modern correct spelling. And, by the way, no “s†is required to make it a plural. That may have been in fashion in 1611, but it isn’t now. Also, if you’re using the Nethinim for some sort of point, it won’t work.
I say it the way the bible says it. If you really want to argue semantics, the correct spelling of "know" is k-n-o-w, not n-o as you posted above in your first sentence. You must be pretty desperate to ignore the point and attack semantics instead.
No, actually what I said is still 100% correct. After all the situation would have to be reversed to apply to the situation at hand. And it isn’t. It’s just that simple. Remember, this was never about non-Jews in the Temple - of which there were effectively none at the time of Jesus in any of the Jewish worship areas.
Oh really? Jesus uncle was a Levite, he never went to the temple? The bible clearly states Zechariah was of the course of Abia, and was made mute in the temple. Do you not know anything?
It was a Jewish Temple. It was NOT a pagan temple being invaded by Jesus or St. Paul. Thus, what I said is still 100% correct.
Nope 100% wrong. Levites, Benjamites, Nethanims, and Edomites are not Jews.
You then posted a long comment about the Nethinim, but, of course, none of that matters since it has no bearing whatsoever on the actions of Jesus or St. Paul since neither of them invaded a pagan temple.
Your post #50 says Jesus did not encounter non-Jews in the temple. 100% wrong.
False. In post #50 you’ll see the example given was about Jesus and the money changers. They were not pagans in a pagan temple. Thus, in any case what I said was absolutely correct. Your example MUST BE about Jesus or St. Paul INVADING a pagan temple to interrupt the worship of pagans.
Your post #50 is clear, you aid there were no non-Jews in the temple. You're dead wrong.
Do you have one? There is no such example recorded in history. And the Nethinim don’t qualify since they were not around at the time of Jesus or St. Paul and they were not in a pagan temple having their worship interrupted by Jesus or St. Paul. Logic.
Now that's laughable. They were around circa 1400BC when the Israelites entered the promised land. They were around circa 500BC when the Israelites re-entered the promised land, but somehow disappeared between 500BC and Jesus' time. You're something else. The fruits of Catholicism, make up things out of mid-air with no factual or scriptural basis whatsoever.