If I fail as a Christian in my loathing of muslimes, I will be judged by the Almighty for my lapse. In the meantime, I live in a world where evil men plot to randomly kill innocent people, which makes me and my loved ones potential targets. By eliminating the threat, I can better protect them and any other potential victims.
I could vanquish that threat by literally murdering muslimes, and I might even be able to get rid of a few before the authorities caught up with me and killed me, which would then leave my family unprotected. So I act by pointing out the sheer treachery, savagery, and incomaptibility with civilization that constitutes islime, hoping that that will awaken in others a hostility that will drive these animals from our midst.
In this, as in so many other cases, it’s very possible that the pen is mightier than the sword. Which is not to say you shouldn’t keep your sword sharp.
We support some missionaries who deal almost exclusively with muslims. They give them Gospel literature and information while they are waiting in customs to return to their home countries from Europe.
They’ve been at it for 10-15 years and have had great success. I praise God for their ministry.
That said, if they profess a desire to harm me or my family, I’ll do my best to assure that I win the battle.
I’ve got a friend who lives in Dearbornistan. He’s been the frog in the hot water so long, he’s adopted a Dhimmi attitude. The other day he said “nothing’s ever happened to me.”
The fact is that I don’t expect any sort of serious attack from Dearborn. The muslim population density is too high. Hamas and Hezbollah are heavily financed by Muslims living in that area. They wouldn’t be wise to kill their bankroll.
I hate the Oakland Raiders AND their fans. And I'm sure God agrees with me.
It’s not hate...it’s self-preservation.
Think about what life would be like if Adam & Eve had not trusted the snake in the garden.
Loving one another as children of God doesn't mean baring your throat for those that want nothing more than to slit it.
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I would also point out that it is possible to sin through inaction. Sitting idly by and watching evil destroy the world is hardly grounds for sainthood.
I suspect God will judge us as much for what we DIDN’T do to STOP evil as for what we did to advance it.
When I point out to them about the danger that Muslims have time and time again posed to society, they argue that Jesus didn’t care if they were dangerous- He wanted His followers to love them...
And you forgot to mention the genocide Isis just committed against Christians in Iraq and Syria and the mass murder and burning of churches in Egypt when the Muslim Brotherhood got power. How could you so quickly forget that? Is your heart made of stone? Did you forget that Obama is naming the Muslims refugees but abandoning the Christians in Syria and Iraq?
Rejecting evil people does not mean “hate.” It means standing up to bullies who commit genocide, enslave, rape, mutilate and torture people. Christians stood up to slavery because we hated it. We stand up to abortionists because we hate the murder of innocent life. We stand up to Muslims because we hate what they do with their evil, intolerant supremacist mentality and abusive power. Look at Saudi Arabia or Iran. You want Islam getting power here via invasion? You call that love?
Are you judging the people who reject all that? Are you a hater? I know the latest fad in Christianity is the false mantra “don’t judge” - “love everyone.” That is not the way our God is. He knows good from evil and He expects us to know that, too. By it’s works, throughout history, Islam is evil. Pretending otherwise - that Islam is the religion of peace - is a lie. Moral relativity is a lie, too.
Salvation comes to those who repent.
Look to the parables that Jesus told. Look to the story of the man who climbed the tree and wanted to follow Christ. What was he told?
There is a difference between the sin of hatred and the anger of God.
For many years I could not forgive my earthly father. In fact, I hated him for quite a lot of things. One day I finally confessed this sin to my priest. This is what he instructed me to do for my penance:
Pray the Our Father daily. This prayer is the very words of Christ and when you get to the part about, “forgive us our tresspassed as we forgive those who tresspass against us,” think of your earthly father. And never forget the thief on the cross who was forgiven and neverforget the last act of earthly forgiveness Christ gave us,even unto the Rpmans and Jews who crucified him. “Father forgive them for they know not what they do.”
God’s wrath and hatred for their unrepentant hearts is what the Judgement is for. Our calling is to offer them every opportunity to find that forgiveness and grace.
Many times in the OT God commanded that entire peoples be wiped out to protect His children Israel. Did He not love those people? Of course HE did. But He also knew that they had been infected with a plague for which there was no cure. They turned away from Him and chose to follow demons.
We have that very same thing in action today with islam. Moslems are commanded to lie by their scriptures if they can gain advantage by it. Who is the father of lies? So who do moslems worship?
Unfortunately because of this command to lie, no moslems can ever be trusted, ever. Even if they claim to have been saved they cannot be trusted (until the Holy Spirit Himself witnesses for them). In order to protect the innocents of the world we have no other option but to remove the plague.
I have a met a few moslems who were actually pretty nice people (aside form the fact that they were commanded to kill me and my children). But that does not make them safe to be around.
Do I hate moslems? No. Do you hate a rabid dog? No. You just do whatever needs to be done to protect yourself and your loved ones (and other innocents) from the actions of that dog. You may love the dog (old yeller) but you still have to destroy it.
By their actions (and the commands of their scriptures)moslems have lowered themselves to dog status.
Christ counsels to “turn the other cheek.” But, eventually, you run out of cheeks.
” the Muslim” they aren’t, they are Muslims period....not a the
It is almost like you are bestowing a honorarium on them.
Jesus didn’t love evil, sin, or satan. One might say he hated these things.
islam is the evil. allah is satan & mohammed is his messenger.
This is plain in any comparison of Christianity & islam. These are not religions worshiping the same God. The words of Jesus & mohammed are completely opposite. There is no Golden Rule” in islam that applies to all, only muslims. islam does not adhere to the 10 Commandments. Jesus never advocated war, rape, murder, pedophilia, or lying. islam does.
The opposite of Heaven is Hell. The opposite of good is evil. The opposite of Christianity is islam.
What you must do is hate islam - satan’s religion, not muslims, who are but dupes who have not had the privilege of knowing Jesus. A Christian’s responsibility is to show muslims the vast differences between Christianity & islam, the difference between good & evil, not to attempt to reconcile the two. In this, organized Christian religion has not just failed, but has committed a grave sin by accepting islam as one of their own. Is that blasphemy or heresy, or both?
I’m surprised they didn’t frame the question this way:
“Has your life improved since you’ve stopped beating your wife?”
I do not hate Muslims I love them as fellow humans and hope and pray they come to the Truth. I hate the demonic system that hole them in bondage and destroys their souls.
What say you Hoagy62? There have been over 100 mostly good responses to your vanity without one reply from you.
This thread is an excellent discussion for Christians to have, I’m glad to see this.
Hating islam has nothing to do with religion so the article is bogus nonsense. Hating islam is bout the violence islam demands against all non muslims.
I don’t hate them. I just find it very hard to share the love of Christ with someone who is trying to go to Allah and 72 virgins and take me with him in the process.
Now if muzzies want to do this, fine they can do it in the dirt bag country they came from. I won’t try to stop them. However they need to leave their Jihads over there.
I agree with you about not hating people. There is some of that. We are to think of their need for conversion to Christ and not judge. And keep in mind how yhe West is turning from God which they see. Jesus actually didn’t say love one another to everyone though. That was to the Church. He did say love your enemies and love your neighbor. Something to remember too is that civil society isn’t the Church either. Where one should forgive something as a Christian that may not mean someone escaping prosecution if they’ve broken the law.