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To: vladimir998
>>“The Bible is clear that we come to Christ through faith/belief in Him.”<<

And no one is denying that here.

Except the claim by Pope Leo XIII that no one can come to Christ except through Mary.

Except what St Louis Marie de Montfort said, To reach the Eternal Father, we must go to Jesus, our Mediator of Redemption . . . To go to Jesus, we must go to Mary: she is our Mediatrix of Intercession.

Except when....The way of salvation is open to no one except through Mary. St. Alphonsus Maria Liguori

>>“However, these good works do not save us.”<<

No one here is claiming they do.

Except when indulgences are brought up.

Except when penance is brought up.

Except when the rcc teaches one can lose salvation in contradiction to Ephesians and Corinthians as previously noted unless penance and indulgences have been properly executed.

60 posted on 11/06/2015 6:48:16 PM PST by ealgeone
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To: ealgeone

“Except the claim by Pope Leo XIII that no one can come to Christ except through Mary.”

The one doesn’t negate the other since Mary just leads to Jesus as she is supposed to.

“Except what St Louis Marie de Montfort said, To reach the Eternal Father, we must go to Jesus, our Mediator of Redemption . . . To go to Jesus, we must go to Mary: she is our Mediatrix of Intercession.”

Again, one doesn’t negate the other since Mary just leads to Jesus as she is supposed to.

“Except when....The way of salvation is open to no one except through Mary. St. Alphonsus Maria Liguori”

The one doesn’t negate the other since Mary just leads to Jesus as she is supposed to.

“Except when indulgences are brought up.”

Nope. Indulgences are gifts of grace.

“Except when penance is brought up.”

Nope. An unrepentant man can’t be saved (Acts 11:18; 20:21; First public word of Jesus in Matthew? Repent: Matthew 4:17). John the Baptist began his ministry the same way (Matthew 3:2). Jesus said that without repentance, they would perish (Luke 13:3).

“Except when the rcc teaches one can lose salvation in contradiction to Ephesians and Corinthians as previously noted unless penance and indulgences have been properly executed.”

Anyone can lose their salvation. To believe that is simply to believe what scripture teaches. Even many Protestants get this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCfDHrwSA0g


69 posted on 11/06/2015 8:48:51 PM PST by vladimir998 (Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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