Posted on 10/29/2015 7:51:30 AM PDT by Salvation
When we think of the word “adoration,†we think of a high form of love, perhaps the highest. Theologically, we equate adoration with latria, the worship and love due to God alone. In the vernacular, to say “I adore you†is to indicate an intense and high form of love.
Liturgically, adoration of the Lord in the Blessed Sacrament indicates a period during which one enters into the experience of loving God and gazing upon Him in that love. The Lord, too, extends a gaze of love to us, as is beautifully stated in the Song of Songs: Behold, he is standing behind our wall, He is looking through the window, peering through the lattice (Song 2:9).
In all these examples there is a sort of intense, yet resting love expressed; a love that is tender and deep, quiet and fixed.
However, the greatest act of adoration the world has ever known exhibits little of this quietude or restfulness. Indeed, one might call this act of adoration quite stormy; though intense, it was not restful. In fact, you might not consider it adoration at all. But consider this reflection by Fr. Reginald Garrigou-Lagrange, O.P.:
Adoration of infinite value was offered to God by Christ in Gethsemane when he prostrated himself saying, “My Father, if it be possible, let this chalice pass from me. Nevertheless, not as I will, but as though wilt.†Christ’s adoration of the Father recognized in a practical and profound manner the sovereign excellence of God … The Savior’s adoration continued on the cross (The Three Ages of the Interior Life, Vol 2, p. 251).
At the heart of this most perfect act of adoration was obedience, a heart that not only loved God but out of that love wanted only what He wanted. True adoration of God includes both a loving acknowledgment of His excellence and a submission of our will to His in loving obedience. Out of love we offer our whole life to God.
Thus adoration is more than mere feeling, no matter how intense; it is sacrifice; it is the willing offering of one’s very self as an act of love to God, who has so loved us. No greater love is there than to lay down one’s life for God and for those we love in Him.
Is obedience and sacrifice what you and I mean when we say that we are going to Eucharistic adoration or when we say that we adore God? The most perfect act of adoration was love expressed as obedience and sacrifice.
How about one that teaches sola scriptura.
No problem. Start a thread about that topic and ping me.
Again, not a single verse teaches Mary was kept from sin.
Right, other than the ones I mentioned. :o)
Good point.
Yet not a single verse that says she was without sin - in Greek.
“I pointed out an act relevant to the thread topic. No more.”
Buncombe. You know what you did.
“You are forgiven for saying what you have posted.”
Sanctimonious much? Nothing I posted calls for forgiveness.
“Remember this is still a free country.”
Malicious, hate-filled, bloody minded bigotry is bad form even in a free country.
Very good.
So why did you accuse me then of something I did not do?
You are forgiven, as of now, this debate is over.
Public revelation ceased with the death of the last Apostle. But these discussions always ignore the fact that the Bible (written revelation) is not the only source available to us from Apostolic times. There's also the preaching (oral teaching) of the Apostles and the lived practice of the Apostles. St. Paul says to pay attention to this.
2 Thessalonians 2:15
traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle.
2 Thessalonians 3:6-9
And we charge you, brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that you withdraw yourselves from every brother walking disorderly, and not according to the tradition which they have received of us.
For yourselves know how you ought to imitate us: for we were not disorderly among you;
Neither did we eat any man's bread for nothing, but in labour and in toil we worked night and day, lest we should be chargeable to any of you.
Not as if we had not power: but that we might give ourselves a pattern unto you, to imitate us.
We are to learn from their words (preaching), their writings (epistles) and their example (we imitate their conduct.)
That's why it seems so unsatisfactory to dismiss some teaching because "Well, that isn't in the Bible." It still part of what the Apostles taught, which is why it is authoritative.
And how do we know it;s what the APostles taught? Becuase it's what was handed on, taught and practiced in all the churches founded by the Aposles. In the churches of northern Africa, Mediterranean Europe, and the Middle East.
All that can be irrelevant, only if the church is irrelevant.
What is the pillar and foundation of the truth?
Monsignor Pope Ping!
“We are to learn from their words (preaching), their writings (epistles...”
If so, it appears in Scripture.
Your follow up point is again an argument from silence - simply an assumption that what we have today is what was seen or heard and passed on. Nothing but an assumption that an unbroken chain occurred.
It did not. Nor can the first link before 100ad be verified.
And much that your denomination classifies as tradition was added hundreds of years later. Ratzinger himself, in his writings, makes this clear.
Which brings the believer back to God’s Word as the authoritative source of inspired truth. It cannot be added to, not taken away from to create new teachings or add strange fire.
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You said: “We tend to reach for God when we are falling and not when we feel good. I say it is important to always adore Jesus and God.”
I say: Amen and Amen!
In my opinion, you miss the point. The argument “That isn’t in the Bible,” is weak on its face. How do we know what books are in the Bible? The Bible doesn’t tell us.
Additionally, we see in Matthew 13:54, and other places, Jesus teaches, but we don’t know exactly what he teaches, as the content isn’t recorded. The same is true when He was in the Temple at age 12, and other places where He teaches the Apostles, yet we don’t know exactly what He taught.
This becomes relevant in the years after the Resurrection and before the setting of the Canon of Scripture. Many late first century teachings came directly from the Apostles, transmitted to and by people such as St. Polycarp. Polycarp was a student of St. John the Apostle, yet many complain some of his teachings are “unbiblical.” That charge is humorous, as the Bible didn’t exist at that time. The Gospels hadn’t been written, nor had many of the Epistles.
And finally, consider the word “trinity” exists nowhere in the Bible. While the concept exists, think how many centuries it took for the whole of Christendom to finally accept the triune nature of God. “God from God, true God from true God, Begotten not made, one in being with the Father.” We don’t see these words or phrases precisely in the Bible, but they are certainly Biblical! And yes, it was the Catholic Church that defeated the various heresies against the Trinity.
Regarding Eucharistic Adoration, the teaching of the Real Presence, from John 6, including all 4 accounts of the Last Supper, are rejected by most Protestants. While the words are clearly and precisely in the text, non-Catholics don’t agree with the interpretation.
As one can see, the argument of “that’s not in the Bible,” is weak. While something as essential as the Trinity isn’t spelled out, it is considered Biblical, yet something that is spelled out, “This is my Body,...” isn’t considered Biblical by a large number. Quite a paradox, is it not?
We glorify you.
God does get glorified in the bible...
We bless you.
No one blesses God in the N.T.
We praise you.
People of course do praise God in the scriptures...
Perhaps you need to look up those phrases in your limited Bible.
I'd say YOU are the one who needs to look in a bible before you imply things that are not true, again...
That's pretty lame...The bible also does not say that Joe Smith would or wouldn't find any gold plates...So I guess he did, eh???
But we can know about your eucharist celebration from what the bible DOES say about other things...
We know the warnings against your religion in the scriptures...
Stay away from those who forbid people from eating certain foods...
Stay away from those religions who call clerics father...
Stay away from that Church that esteems one man over the rest...Or clerics over the lay people...
Stay away from those who forbid it religious leaders to marry and have families...
Avoid any religion that teaches contrary to Jesus that ALL are sinners in need of a Savior...
(And many more)...
By those biblical infractions we can know that your religion is not the church instituted by Jesus...Those infractions are not based on scriptural silence...They are violations of scripture...
There is no reason then to conclude that a religion which violates the words and instructions of God will come up with any religious or Christians practice that if not spoken of in scripture would be any more legitimate than those violations already perpetrated...
Much of what you think you know about the Bible, you know from extra-Biblical sources. Including, significantly, which books are in the Bible!
God gave us more faith than that...God gave us enough faith to know that the Genesis account is true...He gave us enough faith to know that Jonah actually did go into the belly of a whale and the Red Sea parted...
God gave us enough faith to know that what he said is true...God said he would preserve his words forever...So we (I) know he did...
BASICALLY, there are two books out there with scriptures in them that are called the bible...One of those books is responsible for the greatest voluntary mass movement from the secular world and false religions to God the world has ever seen...
The other one that is called the bible has extra books which contradict those initial books and contradict each other...They are full of historical errors...
Now honestly, which of those books would be the words of God that he preserved forever???
adoration
[ad-uh-rey-shuh n]
noun
1. the act of paying honor, as to a divine being; worship.
2. reverent homage.
3. fervent and devoted love.
Origin of adoration:
1535-45; < Latin adÅrÄtiÅn- (stem of adÅrÄtiÅ) worship.
Psa 150:1 Praise ye the LORD. Praise God in his sanctuary: praise him in the firmament of his power.
Psa 150:2 Praise him for his mighty acts: praise him according to his excellent greatness.
Psa 150:3 Praise him with the sound of the trumpet: praise him with the psaltery and harp.
Psa 150:4 Praise him with the timbrel and dance: praise him with stringed instruments and organs.
Psa 150:5 Praise him upon the loud cymbals: praise him upon the high sounding cymbals.
Psa 150:6 Let every thing that hath breath praise the LORD. Praise ye the LORD.
That covers about every instrument ever made...Even bag pipes...Any and every musical instrument imaginable can be used in church worship...
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