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To: redleghunter
In my original post I stipulated the Evangelical model. If you are not Evangelical, or you contend the Sinner's Prayer and Four Spiritual Laws as a method of evangelism do not conform to Evangelicalism, just indicate so rather than deflecting by contending I changed the subject when I initially included that in my post 109:
While you may believe it, Ezekiel is not cited, nor does that scripture in Ezekiel match the Evangelical model alleged in John. One could see models for some Catholic views in Ezekiel (Baptism, Penance).

Which Christ opened for all nations as prophesied in the OT, confirmed by Christ in Luke 24, and fulfilled in Acts.

Your contention is partially correct, and yet there is no reference to Ezekiel in the New Testament, nor is there explicit language in Ezekiel to support your contention. However, there are, at least, some crumbs and kernels in Ezekiel with a promise for the goyim/Gentiles/heathen/nations, i.e., that they shall know He is the LORD when He is sanctified in Israel before the heathen's eyes. That, perhaps, fits well with Matthew, Catholic chapter twenty five. Howbeit, Jeremiah and Isaiah are more explicit of the hope of the nations to join His people Israel, but I find the sweetest promise in Zechariah.

I lifted up mine eyes again, and looked, and behold a man with a measuring line in his hand. Then said I, Whither goest thou? And he said unto me, To measure Jerusalem, to see what is the breadth thereof, and what is the length thereof. And, behold, the angel that talked with me went forth, and another angel went out to meet him, And said unto him, Run, speak to this young man, saying, Jerusalem shall be inhabited as towns without walls for the multitude of men and cattle therein: For I, saith the Lord, will be unto her a wall of fire round about, and will be the glory in the midst of her. Ho, ho, come forth, and flee from the land of the north, saith the Lord: for I have spread you abroad as the four winds of the heaven, saith the Lord. Deliver thyself, O Zion, that dwellest with the daughter of Babylon. For thus saith the Lord of hosts; After the glory hath he sent me unto the nations which spoiled you: for he that toucheth you toucheth the apple of his eye. For, behold, I will shake mine hand upon them, and they shall be a spoil to their servants: and ye shall know that the Lord of hosts hath sent me. Sing and rejoice, O daughter of Zion: for, lo, I come, and I will dwell in the midst of thee, saith the Lord. And many nations shall be joined to the Lord in that day, and shall be my people: and I will dwell in the midst of thee, and thou shalt know that the Lord of hosts hath sent me unto thee. And the Lord shall inherit Judah his portion in the holy land, and shall choose Jerusalem again. Be silent, O all flesh, before the Lord: for he is raised up out of his holy habitation. other sheep

Zechariah, Catholic chapter two, in its entirety,
as authorized, but not authored, by King James,
bold emphasis mine

138 posted on 11/02/2015 1:25:17 PM PST by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: af_vet_1981

I see our differences. I was applying Biblical exegesis.

You keep using the term “Evangelical Model.”

The only such model I am aware of is the NT.

Some pastors and teachers do use methods to communicate the Gospel. The two you mention I am familiar with but are not doctrine. I have also not seen such used in church, in preaching and witnessing the Gospel.

Maybe you can start a thread on the sinners prayer and the 4 spiritual laws to break them down and see if such have standing in scriptures.

I would gather we would most likely cover a good portion of the Gospels, Romans and Hebrews in our discussion.


140 posted on 11/02/2015 7:22:28 PM PST by redleghunter (Truly my soul waiteth upon God: from him cometh my salvation. He only is my rock and my salvation)
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