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To: Roman_War_Criminal

Personally, I don’t believe anything Satan says. The governments are not all his. God puts rulers in their places and Satan and his demons still have to obey God. Now they get to obey Jesus since He is on the throne.

P.S. The resurrection and the gathering of the believers at the first resurrection does not occur until after the anti-Messiah is revealed. 2 Thess 2:

“For it [Jesus’ return and the resurrection] will not come unless the apostasy comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of destruction, 4 who opposes and exalts himself above every so-called god or object of worship, so that he takes his seat in the temple of God, displaying himself as being God.”


6 posted on 10/15/2015 7:11:44 AM PDT by huldah1776
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To: huldah1776

Jesus didn’t deny anything he said with regard to gov’ts not being his.

God puts Satan on a “leash” so to say, but the Bible is very clear on the Principalities and Powers ruling the world. Yes He’s in control of everything, but if He did control the govt’s of the world, we would clearly not be in the current mess we are in.

Ephesians 6:12
John 12:31
Daniel 10:13

I don’t believe in a “Post-Trib” view. Nor a “Mid-Trib” view.

1 Thes 4:16-18
Matthew 24:44

PS: If you wish to read...

From Todd Strandberg

The First Resurrection

I’ve heard some folks say, “There cannot be a pre-trib rapture because to have one would require a second resurrection at Christ’s return to earth.” This conclusion is drawn from Revelation 20:

“But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection. Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years” (Rev 20:5-6).

One pre-trib writer, explaining this passage, said, “The first did not mean first in time, but rather first in kind.” The first resurrection was for God’s people the second will be for the unsaved.

A quick way to shoot down the notion that the first resurrection is tied to a specific date, as opposed to a more general time frame, is to take note of the tribulation rapture of the two witnesses and the 144,000 Jewish evangelists. At the mid-point of the tribulation, the two witnesses are killed by the Antichrist, resurrected by God, and then caught up into heaven (Rev 11:3-12).

Revelation chapter 7 describes the sealing of the 144,000 Jewish evangelists just before the Beast issues his mark. Sometime during the latter half of the tribulation, Revelation chapter 14 indicates they will be “redeemed from the earth,” standing before the throne of God.


8 posted on 10/15/2015 7:26:34 AM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (This Hispanic wants a wall, the National Guard, and turrets guarding our border)
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