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Cardinal Burke: Synods Originally Meant to Preserve and Strengthen Doctrine and Discipline
National Catholic Register ^ | 10/12/15 | Edward Pentin

Posted on 10/12/2015 8:39:09 PM PDT by ebb tide

In the face of concerns that after the Synod on the Family pastoral innovations could be introduced that are inconsistent with Church doctrine and thereby foster disunity in the Church, it’s worth recalling a speech Cardinal Raymond Burke made in Rome shortly before the current synod got underway.

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TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Moral Issues; Religion & Culture
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1 posted on 10/12/2015 8:39:09 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

This dear Cardinal needs our prayers too, as we pray with the Fatima network tomorrow, (6 AM (CST)).

Like us, his poor head must also be spinning to be so marginalized, treated as an outsider in a Church gone mad at the top, at least in the halls of influence.

It is nearly impossible to recognize the Catholic Church from the denominations, on Sunday morning, but many of the seat warmers seem pleased with the minimization of the Mass, the prayers, the artless, the architectureless, stadium lights and etc., etc., etc.


2 posted on 10/12/2015 8:52:28 PM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming)
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To: RitaOK

It would seem the whole world has gone mad. Thankfully. it must be part of his design, that the chaff may fall away. Pray for God’s will to be done.


3 posted on 10/12/2015 8:56:35 PM PDT by ichabod1 (Spriiingtime for islam, and tyranny. Winter for US and frieeends. . .)
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To: ebb tide

**Synods Originally Meant to Preserve and Strengthen Doctrine and Discipline**

Yes!

Let the truth prevail.


4 posted on 10/12/2015 9:08:20 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: ebb tide

Dear Ebb Tide,

Why fear the Magesterium? The sensus fidei? Is God not in charge? Do not all things work to His purpose? What can even one worry from you do to change His plans? Would you lead an insurrection to overthrow the synod? Don’t you trust the Holy Ghost? Or is this not the one Holy and Apostolc church and the gates of Hell will prevail?

Foolish man.


5 posted on 10/12/2015 9:18:38 PM PDT by WriteOn (Truth)
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To: RitaOK

I’ve recently started attending a local parish after going to a Baptist church for many years. The pastor at my old church had ambitions at one time of turning it into a megachurch with lots of contemporary worship bells and whistles.

I’m dismayed that the services seem so similar.

I just started the RCIA process and I’m already afraid I might have to go back to square one at a traditional parish.


6 posted on 10/12/2015 9:36:52 PM PDT by Catmom (We're all gonna get the punishment only some of us deserve.)
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To: ichabod1

Couldn’t agree with you more, ichabod1.


7 posted on 10/12/2015 10:04:08 PM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming)
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To: RitaOK; markomalley; Mrs. Don-o; Salvation; NYer; WriteOn; ebb tide

I must respectfully disagree with some of my FReeper Catholic colleagues here and here’s why.

The Samaritan Woman At The Well
An Interpretation that Supports Communion For Divorced Catholics

The event that took place between Jesus and the woman at the well is one of the most beautiful of one-on-one Divine encounters. Christ makes no mention here of reproach for her fornication and yet allows her to commune with Him and indeed invites her lover to share the Living Water.

“But the water that I will give him, shall become in him a fountain of water, springing up into life everlasting.”

The woman says to Jesus “Sir, give me this water, that I may not thirst nor come here to draw.”

John’s narrative speaks of the woman going to the well at mid-day. This is crucial since temps at this time are well over the 100 degree mark. Why did she go at mid-day? Because most folks would draw their water during the early morning or late evening hours when it’s reasonably cool to make the trek to the well. Since her reputation about town was well known she wanted to avoid the townsfolk who would shy away from her had she gone to draw water the same time as others did, and have to put up with their whispering gossip. Apparently she goes to the well at mid-day because in the past she has encountered no one.

This is why she was surprised to see a man (Christ); a Jew; and one would be willing to ask her for a sip of water; and use her water cup. But after the encounter with Christ, John adds the evangelizing issue, of how she no longer felt disgraced and humiliated by her past even while she was still living unmarried with a man. The Divine encounter at the well changed her, completely.

Isn’t this what communion is all about? The Divine reception that changes everything. It’s not what we have done or what we do, but rather what we become is what attests to the fruits of the Divine encounter.

So why divorced Catholics should be excluded from the Divine encounter (Communion) is puzzling? You can now see why German Archbishop Heiner Koch would offer his rebuke to the exegetical musings of the hardliners.

http://thinkprogress.org/health/2015/10/09/3711337/german-archbishop-reconsider-divorce/

It won’t be unusual if Pope Francis accepts a minority report recommending communion to divorced Catholics following a period of contrition. Didn’t Paul VI accept a minority report on the prohibition of birth control?

Dr. Ambrosia explains below on how the Divine encounter with the much married woman at the well not only changed her but perhaps a whole town.

http://www.integratedcatholiclife.org/2014/03/dambrosio-sunday-reflection-samaritan-woman-original-meaning-of-lent/


8 posted on 10/12/2015 10:53:55 PM PDT by Steelfish
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To: Steelfish

I eagerly await your respectful disagreement with Freepers who reject the Church’s impending acceptance of sodomy, because that’s next.


9 posted on 10/12/2015 11:04:47 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Step away from the Koolade.)
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To: Jeff Chandler

That’s a whole different world. The Pope has affirmed that there will be no change on that matter, and indeed on this issue, there can be no change. While Archbishop of Buenos Aires, he called adoption by gays a form of child cruelty. Let’s not mix apples and oranges, and keep to the topic of admitting divorced/re-married Catholics to communion


10 posted on 10/12/2015 11:10:17 PM PDT by Steelfish
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To: Steelfish
The Pope has affirmed that there will be no change on that matter, and indeed on this issue, there can be no change.

Bless your heart.

11 posted on 10/12/2015 11:19:06 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Step away from the Koolade.)
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To: Steelfish

You get your exegesis of the gospal from thinkprogress.org? A pro-abortion, Soros-funded front for the “Democrat” baby-killing party.

The only proposals the baby-killing party would conceivably support are those they have reason to believe will destroy the Catholic Church.

Pathetic exegesis, indeed. Nothing but repetition of the word “communion,” while equivocating on its meaning. Argument by jingle.

First of all, where’s the evidence that St. John intends this incident to have anything whatsoever to do with the Eucharist?


12 posted on 10/12/2015 11:54:53 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan (Beau Biden's funeral, attended by Bp. Malooly, Card. McCarrick, and Papal Nuncio, Abp. Vigano.)
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To: ebb tide

Burke for Pope.


13 posted on 10/12/2015 11:57:05 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan (Beau Biden's funeral, attended by Bp. Malooly, Card. McCarrick, and Papal Nuncio, Abp. Vigano.)
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To: Steelfish

If the seven Holy Sacraments are to be good only while they last, temporary, something to be arbitrated, and changeable, and quite based on the shifts of society and culture, and Ecumenical pleasure, and in this case two Holy Sacraments— of Holy Matrimony and Holy Communion, please then address the certainty of Sacred Tradition and The Catechism of the Catholic Church, and Canon Law, on the subject of divorce and remarriage without annulment, and Sacred Scripture, on the subject of adultery.

Sacred Tradition is one leg of the three on which the Catholic Church stands from the beginning. To see one leg broken by the manipulation of the other two makes my heart tremble. Sacred Tradition historically has not been thought to be “hardline”, in today’s social-political sense of the word.

I don’t see how entertaining the diabolical debate of this Synod strengthens and encourages Sacred Tradition, the Magisterium, Sacred Scripture, which is the traditional purpose of the Synod of Cardinals, reportedly, dating back to 800 AD.

I guess I would be interested in reading a debate between you and your premise, side by side with the sources Catholics depend on, and mentioned above.


14 posted on 10/13/2015 12:14:44 AM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming)
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To: Catmom

Welcome to RCIA and the barque of Peter! The seas are a bit choppy at the moment...


15 posted on 10/13/2015 12:15:29 AM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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To: ebb tide

I don’t know if my nerves will take another week of this gutwrenching synod... I just hope and pray that in the end we will all be pleasantly surprised by the God of surprises and that doctrine will not be overturned either directly, or by change of discipline, or by allowing local “pastoral” decisionmaking.


16 posted on 10/13/2015 12:19:54 AM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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To: Arthur McGowan

That thought has crossed my mind, also.

If they are to be known by their fruits, dear Burke certainly does defend all three legs of the stool.

We certainly know the name of the “author of confusion”.

All this synod business has shaken me and made me take more notice in Mass, of the peoples words at the consecration, when we say, “and all His Holy Church”, and that it means what it says, as opposed to that which is *not* Holy.


17 posted on 10/13/2015 12:29:52 AM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming)
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To: Unam Sanctam

You have a gathering of company with you, in Heaven and on earth. All of us are shaken and broken hearted. What a dreadful test, as if in mourning, isn’t it? This is not good fruit.

God is with us. He is our Shepherd, and the 23rd Psalm has given me much comfort.


18 posted on 10/13/2015 12:34:08 AM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming)
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To: Catmom

My sympathies. Personally, I highly recommend the more traditional, but I envy you that you even have the option of a traditional Mass and parish.

Round trip, I would drive seven hours for the nearest one. I’m quite miserable.


19 posted on 10/13/2015 12:43:14 AM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming)
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To: ebb tide

http://www.afripol.org/afripol/item/1523-pope-francis-liberalism-was-lambasted-by-nigerian-cardinal-arinze.html


20 posted on 10/13/2015 12:55:37 AM PDT by antceecee (Bless us Lord, forgive us our sins and bring us to everlasting life.)
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