no, not “Catholic ping”.
Catholics tolerate superstitious relics but we don’t have to believe in them.
How does it date in Carbon 14 dating? Is the weave that of medieval Europe, like the Shroud, or is it similar to that of the Levant in the first century? Linen or cotton? Where was the linen grown?
I believe your shroud info is incorrect, and I think Swordmaker is the expert here. If it is not you, Swordmaker, you have my appologies for bugging you!
You assume facts not in evidence, LadyDoc. . . and in truth are not "facts" at all.
The weave of the Shroud of Turin is neither a specific weave of the medieval Europe or of any particular period. The three over one twill was also a weave of many periods. . . and has been found in ancient Egypt, the Eastern Mediterranean Levant area of the 1st Century, Roman weaves of almost any period, Central America of 1600 years ago, China of 3000 years ago, and many others. To limit it to medieval Europe is a claim of the skeptics and totally false. There is actually as much evidence linking the Shroud of Turin to the 1st Century Levant than there is to 14th Century Europe. . . and evidence showing its age to being far older than what the now falsified C-14 tests of a patched section reported a melange of old plus 16th century added material to be.
Once it was proved that the C-14 test was NOT performed on a homogenous sample, it was proved invalid as an accurate test of the main body of the Shroud.
The Shroud was bleached by a technique, hank bleaching in which the hanks of linen yarn were draped draped over bushes in the sun, a technique that had not been used in Europe for at least six hundred years having given way to whole cloth bleaching. The Shroud was then woven on a wall loom, a weaving technique that also was no longer in use in Europe of the period for at least four hundred years, having moved on to frame looms, which provided a more consistent result.
Cloth woven in the 9th century on will contain detectable levels of vanillin in the lignin of the fibers which evaporates at a known rate with time and temperature over the centuries. . . and a 13-14th Century cloth would have considerable levels of vanillin remaining. The shroud has zero vanillin left in its lignin. . . a state which indicates the flax of which it is made is at least 1300 years old or older.
The Shroud has imbedded in the obverse side, where the shoulders, buttocks, back of the head, and foot imprints are, as well as the some where the thighs and calfs, a specific type of limestone dust, a specific Travertine aragonite, whose chemical profile is matched only by the travertine aragonite that is found in only one place in the entire world. . . outside the eastern gate of Jerusalem, near a place called Golgotha, and specifically in tombs carved in the limestone rock there. The dust is on the back side of the Shroud where it would have been picked up in the cloth from being laid on a limestone shelf and having a soft, heavy, body shaped object laid on the other side of the cloth, which pressed the cloth into the dusty surface of the rock. The test for this is done by a x-ray spectrograph and is quite accurate. No 12th-14th century forger could possibly have anticipated such physical and chemical tests for authenticity and included such detail on his hypothetical fraud, or even anticipated their existence or potential.