Posted on 10/01/2015 3:09:35 PM PDT by pastorbillrandles
To all who have any discernment,we are currently witnessing the diminishment of the 70 year US sphere of influence in the Middle East.
I cringed as I witnessed the spectacle of Vladimir Putin’s U.N. speech excoriating the western nations for ignoring international law, dis-embowling Libya, Syria and creating ISIS through our meddling in the Middle East.
Putin is a supporter of embattled Syrian President Bashir Assad. He has committed Russian ground troops, tanks, ships and an air strike force to defend Assad. Putin is also an ally of the terrorist Iranian regime. They too have poured troops into Syria to defend Assad and are currently fighting to defend the beleaguered Assad regime.
It is obvious that Putin is exploiting the Sunni/Shiite rift in Islam, taking the side of the Shiites, and developing a Shiite alliance, armed and trained by Russia. The goal is a Shiite crescent from Syria all the way to the Caucasus
On the other hand, Obama and the West have long been supporters of the Sunni, which are 80 percent of the Muslim world. The Saudi’s have virtually bribed, blackmailed or out right purchased the leadership of the Western world, including America. At their bidding the US has spilled much blood and spent much treasure to try to ensure an order in the Middle East to keep the oil flowing.
Sunnis and Shiites hate each other even more than they hate and fear anyone else.
The center point of the Obama foreign policy has been the so-called “Arab Spring”. Coming out of his “post colonial ” worldview,(i.e. that the West has gained at the expense of the third world, and that therefore Western gains must be reversed), Obama has undermined the former secular, pragmatic , and admittedly harsh governments of the post WW2 Middle East.
I wouldn’t want to live under a Mubarak(Egypt) or a Qadhafi(Libya) or even under a Saddam Hussein(Iraq). They were tyrants indeed, but they had to be harsh to hold back even more savage forces, which they knew well, in their own lands. None of the above had an official policy to persecute Christians. But the ones who are currently filling the void left by these undermined leaders do indeed practice genocide against Christians!
Bashir Assad is one of those “old order ” leaders. He does indeed have blood on his hands, and is the current subject of the bloody “Arab Spring” uprising. Obama wants him out of power, and the West has funded, trained and financed several Sunni armies to oust him.
One of the more vicious of these US funded groups, turned their attention from ousting Assad to carving out for themselves an area between parts of the embattled Syria and the hastily abandoned Iraq, to deform ISIS. (The Islamic State of Iraq and Syria).They are unleashing a reign of terror throughout the world that hasn’t been seen since the Nazis or Stalin.
Under much pressure from world opinion,the Obama administration has waged a very limited, feckless, and pinprick war to “degrade” ISIS’s capacity.
Vladimir Putin surprised the whole world, on the day after his UN speech, by unleashing fierce airstrikes against ISIS Targets, warning US aircraft to “Stay out-of-the-way”. One Syrian foreign minister said two days of Putin’s airstrikes have accomplished more than a year of the US effort to “degrade” ISIS.
These bold actions by Putin would have been inconceivable even in the days of the George W Bush administration. He senses the weak, ineffective resolve of the World’s former superpower, and is saying “Get out of our way, you have had your chance, let us show you how this terrorism is dealt with“.
Putin’s air force will not be hampered by the suicidal rules of engagement American forces have been tethered to.
But Putin isn’t just trying to take out ISIS, (the vicious Frankenstein we created and armed). Putin is out to defend Assad, therefore he is also taking out CIA backed rebel bases. In any other time this would be regarded as an act of war by an enemy.
The coalition Putin is assembling and arming is similar to the end times coalition spoken of by Ezekiel the Prophet that will come against Israel in the last days. It includes Turkey, (Meshech and Tubal,Gomer, Togarmah ), Iran(Persia) Somalia and Sudan(Ethiopia) Libya and parts of North Africa.
And the word of the Lord came unto me, saying, Son of man, set thy face against Gog, the land of Magog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal, and prophesy against him, And say, Thus saith the Lord God; Behold, I am against thee, O Gog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal: And I will turn thee back, and put hooks into thy jaws, and I will bring thee forth, and all thine army, horses and horsemen, all of them clothed with all sorts of armour, even a great company with bucklers and shields, all of them handling swords: Persia, Ethiopia, and Libya with them; all of them with shield and helmet: Gomer, and all his bands; the house of Togarmah of the north quarters, and all his bands: and many people with thee. Be thou prepared, and prepare for thyself, thou, and all thy company that are assembled unto thee, and be thou a guard unto them.(Ezekiel 38:1-7)
The individual addressed, Gog, has assembled a confederacy to come down into the Land of Israel to take a spoil. When God says “Be thou Prepared and prepare for thyself…” it is literally “Be thou an Armorer unto them and to thyself”.
America is not mentioned as a factor in the last days prophecies. We could currently be seeing her demise in influence. Two anecdotes illustrate this;
This is from a transcript of the Rush Limbaugh Show; White House Has Priorities in Order
“RUSH: What do we get from the White House? “The White House is reaching out to the transgender community for a list of things that its members want as they follow their lifestyle choices.”
Well, it’s obvious here, ladies and gentlemen, this White House has their priorities in order. “The initiative was launched with the help of White House Chief Data Scientist DJ Patil, who expressed concern that there is very little data of what the transgender community needs from the government.” Why does the transgender community need anything from the government? I mean, why does anybody need — I mean, like this, places to pee?”
More ominously, there is this article, US UN Delegates Refuse To Applaud Israel In a profoundly moving speech Benjamin Netanyahu confronted the UN on it’s silence in the face of Iranian promises to destroy Israel. But the US delegation distinguished itself by refusing to applaud. Samantha Powers walked out of the speech.
What is the reason for America’s astonishing blessings anyway? I would say it is the blessing of God.
And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.(Genesis 12:3)
How will we fare without it?
This link has another 99 reasons why America is Mystery Babylon, plus the stuff John Quincy Adams was so freaked out about he helped with the new political party called the “Anti Mason Party”
http://www.iron-clay.com/mystery-babylon.html
Agree with much you say except perhaps the harlot is more likely Jerusalem representing Israel.
Rev. 17:7 But the angel said to me, “Why did you marvel? I will tell you the mystery of the woman and of the beast that carries her, which has the seven heads and the ten horns. 8 The beast that you saw was, and is not, and will ascend out of the bottomless pit and go to perdition. And those who dwell on the earth will marvel, whose names are not written in the Book of Life from the foundation of the world, when they see the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.
The beast that was, is not (during John's time), and yet is, seems to be Babylon and in the end of the age "Mystery Babylon."
A few other references that seem to indicate this:
Rev. 17:18 And the woman whom you saw is that great city which reigns over the kings of the earth.”
Rev. 17:3 So he carried me away in the Spirit into the wilderness. And I saw a woman sitting on a scarlet beast...
Alas, alas, that great city that was clothed in fine linen, purple, and scarlet...
Seems the "woman" is helped initially, in the end of the age, by the beast - a government (i.e. America, the UN, etc.), perhaps the final Greco-Roman form of government(s) all of which will broken to pieces when Messiah returns.
There are other tie-ins to Jerusalem/Israel being the harlot, such as scripture speaking of her destroying the saints/prophets in both Matt. and Rev. Many I think confuse the "harlot" with "Mystery Babylon". "Mystery Babylon" is the "beast" government, whom every that consists of, at the end of this age, when there will be no further need for governments.
How I see it anyway, for now. :-D
I just don't see a Dubai-like entity that ever was, or ever will be a "golden cup" in the Almighty's hand? But that's me - not saying it can't happen as you see it.
"Mystery Babylon", IMO, represents a government or unity of governments (i.e. UN). Reference to its demise in Rev., and the interpretation of king Nebuchadnezzar's dream of a statue representing his kingdom and the kingdoms to come by Daniel.
Keep in mine also that Israel itself has a "government". I'm still pondering the somewhat abstract notion what "the beast" means as related to government. That's what will be destroyed at the end of this age.
She (Israel) sits among the nations (governments of the UN).
"The woman you saw is the great city that rules over the kings of the earth."
Jerusalem/Israel - in the end.
"In her was found the blood of prophets and of the saints, and of all who have been killed on the earth."
Who/What has killed more people than anyone or anything else?
Answer: Government
What will be destroyed in the end?
Same Answer!
"Daniel 2:44-45 “But throughout the history of these kingdoms, the God of heaven will be building a kingdom that will never be destroyed, nor will this kingdom ever fall under the domination of another. In the end it will crush the other kingdoms and finish them off and come through it all standing strong and eternal. It will be like the stone cut from the mountain by the invisible hand that crushed the iron, the bronze, the ceramic, the silver, and the gold."
It's kind of hard for us to comprehend a world without some form of government - takes some getting use to. But there wasn't one in the beginning. ;-)
Sometimes a line between a government and “a religion” doesn’t exist. Examples today would be some Islamic nations, and other examples throughout history.
Yes it will!
That is true NOW, but what was NYC 300 years ago? What will Iraq be like in a hundred years?
300 or 100 years, what is that to God?
I FEAR you are right, and have since before I signed up to this board in 1998, hence my screen name--however...
I keep debating this in my mind and have been doing so for decades. God wants more people saved. Jesus said He does not want even ONE to perish. Yet we call out to Him to come soon, but He wills it to be longer. How long? We do not know. It might even be presumptuous to want it sooner then later.
We truly cannot say when is the day and hour. We need to focus on our own salvation, not the world's or our country.
Eat, drink and be merry, but tomorrow you may die. Then the fate of the USA or world won't matter, but yours will be set.
OK. Well, you may be right. - I’m stuck here in the South & I just ask for God’s help & protection. Bottom line is Twinkie’s just a human being & don’t understand it all. Maybe one day I will, or at least what all I’m supposed to understand. - We don’t buy much of the stuff mentioned for Babylon dainties - cinnamon maybe. Otherwise; we live a pretty plain life in a modest house on the river; don’t get in to town all that often. This is overwhelming.
Look UP!
The spiritual natures overlap. There are daughters of Babylon and daughters of Zion, children of the bondwoman and children of the freewoman. The idolatrous Sodom/Egypt/Babylon nature vs. the righteousness of Sarah, Rebecca, Leah, and Rachel... Zion
Jerusalem is also an allegory for America, as 1) the Jerusalem above guided by her Creator (having foundational principles of freedom and self-government only suited to a moral people), and also 2) the Jerusalem below, in bondage to worldly idolatries and harlotries [and all the destruction that brings forth].
Re: Aholah and Aholibah (Eze 23). Note that even within the harlot Jerusalem’s name (Aholibah) is a fulfilment of “In JerUSAlem I will put my name.”
That is, the name in Exo 3:14, “I am” (Ehyeh), is spelled out in the name Aholibah:
Ehyeh: alef hei yud hei
Aholibah: alef hei lamed yud bet hei
That leaves lamed and bet, which spells lev, heart.
The harlot rides (prostitutes herself) to the beast government. Same country, but different Americas. There are the citizens, and then there’s... Fedzilla. The genuine We the People Americans holding to the spirit of America’s founding are the children of the freewoman. The parasitic classes (home grown and imported) are the children of the bondwoman.
Overlapping symbols and successive world powers, but really two choices: God or mammon. Worship of the Creator or faith in man and his “creations” (wealth, power, hedonism et al...).
Matthew 6:19 Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal:
Matthew 6:20 But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal:
Matthew 6:21 For where your treasure is, ***there will your heart be also***.
Jeremiah 29:10 For thus saith the LORD, That after seventy years be accomplished at Babylon I will visit you, and perform my good word toward you, in causing you to return to this place.
Jeremiah 29:11 For I know the thoughts that I think toward you, saith the LORD, thoughts of peace, and not of evil, to give you an expected end.
Jeremiah 29:12 Then shall ye call upon me, and ye shall go and pray unto me, and I will hearken unto you.
Jeremiah 29:13 ***And ye shall seek me, and find me, when ye shall search for me with all your heart.***
Within Aholibah (harlot Jerusalem) is “I AM” + “heart”
The seeds of redemption and return were planted way back.
Contemplate this- the major religions , governments and economic/business is governed and set, relatively peacefully. by a Roman calendar named after a religious Pope..
(Pope Gregory- Gregorian Calendar)
Daniel 7:25 talks about times and laws changing.some scholars have even said Rome or something out of Rome will think to change times and laws.
Read Ezekiel 46:1 and answer one question for me-
What are the Father’s New Moon Days if they aren’t one of His 6 Work Days or His Sabbath? Rome’s calendar doesn’t have an answer. But scripture does.
The first protestant refomers (pre Gregorian calendar) called the papacy the ‘seat of antichrist’ and the popes, ‘antichrist’..
And 500 years later,if they were still alive, would probably call the Gregorian calendar, the world sets its work and worship, ‘antichrist’s calendar’..
Today, popes are rock stars. And certainly not accused of being ‘antichrist’..
In polite circles at least..
What a world!
You would have to work out all the stuff about how the Antichrist will fool almost everyone on earth into thinking he is God and tries to take his seat at a reconstituted Temple in Jerusalem — in order to make a case for Israel to be Mystery Babylon.
Jerusalem/Israel does not equal Mystery Babylon. Though I have read people discussing how weirdly luciferian the Knesset buildings are:
That is weird. And I for one have been thinking these age-old conspiratorial ideas about popes being against Jesus/God may be accurate after Francis spewed forth in the past week...
If you have a Concordance, look up the Word ‘anti’..
It need not be used as ‘opposed to’ or ‘against’ like we understand today.
But, it can be used to mean ‘instead of’ or ‘in place of’. Strongs #473
Like an enemy without (like athiests,islam and frankly Rabbinic Judaism given 1 John 2:22)
Or an enemy within
(1 John 2:18-19 and 1 John 4:1-3)
Here’s the rub- has Rome been a vessel to bring a substitute ‘in place of’ Christ, a false Christ, to life?
A substitute Jesus or is Rome just trying to be God?
“Trying to be God” btw is the first and most grievous sin in the Garden...
“... ye shall be as gods.” It is the reason Eve ate. It actually is the fuel for most every sin on earth ever since because it is the root of all elitism, class stratification, aristocracy, snobbery, greed — every notion that man sets himself up as better than someone else. It is the reason for the Civil War (the South thought themselves deserving to have slaves) and WWII (Nazis thought Jews and other mongrel races of mixed blood were beneath them).
It's even comical that in the former Soviet Union, the goal was to attain godlike perfection as you strived to become the “perfect Soviet Man”...
“Ye shall be as gods” is really the worst sin in the entire bible.
I fed a beast and really didn’t even know it..
The more one comes out of the world, the less they feed a beast..
Not sure people see America in end times but, right now, hollywood, porn, music industries having their babylonian HQs here is the opposite of Messiah led..and Russia, no less counterfeit..He shows me counterfeits everywhere.
Nowhere physically to go if He shows you the entire world is ‘Babylon’
tough to ‘come out’of confusion in this world.
only place to go is to Him..
A perfect refuge.. And truly humbling. Or should be. The opposite of pride.
What a journey!
I miss Zola Levitt. I loved watching his show.
Interesting point re: “anti”. Thanks.
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