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To: ebb tide
"I really don't care what you think. I care what Jesus Christ thinks. And Christ clearly made His thoughts known on the indissolubility of the Sacrament of Marriage."

I totally agree with that.

However, we don't know that grave matter exists in Pope Francis' actions (e.g. it would be grave matter if he were supporting the supposed "annulment" of valid matrimonial vows); and we don't know if full knowledge and full consent to that exists (if that's in fact his intent at all).

So --- even in view of the undoubted fact that deliberately declaring valid vows to be "null" wold be grave matter--- none of the three conditions for mortal sin can justly be assumed in Pope Francis' actions. That's why the adjective "corrupt" can't be justly applied to Pope Francis personally.

He may be making an appallingly imprudent decision to amend Canon Law in this way and at this time, but impudence in itself is not a sin even if it is a destructive mistake.

24 posted on 09/16/2015 7:14:41 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Semper Fi.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
However, we don't know that grave matter exists in Pope Francis' actions (e.g. it would be grave matter if he were supporting the supposed "annulment" of valid matrimonial vows); and we don't know if full knowledge and full consent to that exists (if that's in fact his intent at all).

We've had full knowledge of Francis' evil intentions for over two years now:

"With reference to the issue of giving communion to persons in a second union (because those who are divorced can receive communion, there is no problem, but when they are in a second union, they can’t…), I believe that we need to look at this within the larger context of the entire pastoral care of marriage. And so it is a problem. But also – a parenthesis – the Orthodox have a different practice. They follow the theology of what they call oikonomia, and they give a second chance, they allow it. But I believe that this problem – and here I close the parenthesis – must be studied within the context of the pastoral care of marriage. And so, two things: first, one of the themes to be examined with the eight members of the Council of Cardinals with whom I will meet on 1-3 October is how to move forward in the pastoral care of marriage, and this problem will come up there."Papal Flight Sunday, 28 July 2013

Francis looks towards the schismatic Orthodox for guidance in his relentless pursuit for "catholic divorce". Not only that; he decided to go outlaw and preempt his SinNod II.

25 posted on 09/16/2015 7:28:28 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o; ebb tide
That's why the adjective "corrupt" can't be justly applied to Pope Francis personally.

His corruption is evidenced by his deliberate publication of a document stating that homosexual relationships offer "a precious support in the life of the partners" -- an unambiguous rejection of God's Word. His scandalous strike against the indissolubility of marriage provides further evidence of his contempt for doctrine.

29 posted on 09/16/2015 7:49:54 PM PDT by BlatherNaut
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