New 'Fast-Track Annulments' May Be Rarer Than Expected (Diocese of Madison)

NC Register (the good one) ^ | 9/16/2015 | Joan Desmond

[Mrs. Don-o]

Dioceses across the US have been bombarded with questions about the annulment news from the Rome.

The Diocese of Madison, Wis. has already released a timely document (Frequently Asked Questions Re: Mitis Iudex Dominus Iesus) that should prove helpful to Catholics seeking an annulment and Church leaders concerned about setting realistic expectations...

Who qualifies for the shorter process?

Answer: The shorter process is designed only for those rare cases when it can be employed without injustice. Three strict qualifications have to be met.

1. Both spouses have to petition for it together, or if not, then the other party must at least consent to it.
2. The nullity of the marriage must be manifest. Most marriage nullity cases deal with a defect in marital consent, i.e., with an invisible, internal act of the will placed by the spouses, often several years prior. Clearly, it would be exceptional for such a defect to be patently obvious today.
3. All the facts that make the marriage manifestly null have to be readily available. Unlike the documentary process, the shorter process can involve the questioning of both parties and knowledgeable witnesses, but this is to be done all in one session when possible.

[snip]

Do I qualify for the shorter process?

Answer: Statistically speaking, probably not. Based on a cursory review of the cases heard since 2012 (about two hundred cases in all), well over half eventually received an affirmative, but only three or four appeared in retrospect to meet the qualifications for the use of the shorter process...and qualifying for the shorter process is no guarantee of an eventual declaration of nullity.

As one canonist told me, "It will be up to the local bishop" to maintain the integrity of the annulment process. Diocese of Madison's Q&A here.

[verga]

What does that say about the prot that did not provide the documentation AND missed the “/UBERSARC!” at the end of my comment?

[ebb tide]

What “documentation” are you demanding?

[verga]

Go up thread, there is a whopping 40 posts to look through, or you could just click on the “to#” under each post.

[Mrs. Don-o]

-— but when they quit their acts of sodomy, and the underlying sick lust, it’s no longer a “sodomite relationship”. They can, withj the help of God’s grace, develop a spiritual friendship which conduces to their mutual sanctification.

[ebb tide]

In other words, you don’t know what you’re talking about.

[verga]

Boy can I call it or what? I just knew you were one of those people. Thank you for proving me correct again.

[ebb tide]

Who are “those people”?

Roman Catholics, perhaps, who don’t buy Francis’ B.S., like you do?

[verga]

If that helps you get through the dark scary night.

[BlatherNaut]

You seem to view married couples who contracept and sodomite couples as existing on an equal plane. Sodomite relationships are unnatural not only on the physical plane but also on the spiritual and emotional planes. Eschewing the physical act does not negate the other issues.

[Mrs. Don-o]

I'm just taking the traditional view that nobody is a "homosexual," --- as a more-or-less permanent form of identity --- but that the real issue is sodomy. The internal act (fantasy and lust) and the external act (perverted intercourse).

It wasn't until the mid-19th century that the word and concept of "homosexual" was even invented, in the taxonomy of pathologies then favored by the psychiatrists. Before then, the only relevant categories were "lust" and "sodomy", neither of which required a particular "class" of people to engage in them.

Sodomy and contracepted intercourse are both unnatural acts, both perverted (turned away from the true nature and purposes of sex as created by God), and both mortal sins. They are morally congruent but not, of course, identical.

Every mortal sin is, in some ways, like every other mortal sin; like some other mortal sins; and like no other mortal sin.

[Mrs. Don-o]

Married couples who contracept are guilty of the additional sin of sacrilege against the Sacrament of Matrimony.

[BlatherNaut]

Sodomy and contracepted intercourse are both unnatural acts, both perverted (turned away from the true nature and purposes of sex as created by God), and both mortal sins. They are morally congruent

If they were morally congruent, both would be characterized as "sins that cry to heaven for vengeance".*

"...Saint Peter Damian (1007-1072)

Doctor of the Church, cardinal and a great reformer of the clergy, Saint Peter Damian wrote his famous Book of Gomorrah against the inroads made by homosexuality among the clergy. He describes not only the iniquity of homosexuality, but also its psychological and moral consequences:

"Truly, this vice is never to be compared with any other vice because it surpasses the enormity of all vices.… "

12 Quotes Against Sodomy That Every Catholic Should Know

*What are sins that cry to heaven for vengeance and sins against the Holy Spirit?

Full Question

What are sins that cry to heaven for vengeance and sins against the Holy Spirit?

Answer

Most Catholics are familiar with the term mortal sin. Mortal sins deprive the soul of grace. They are serious transgressions of God's law, done freely and deliberately with a clear understanding of what they are. Their result is to deny a soul entrance to heaven.

There are particular mortal sins that are so evil that they are said to be sins that cry to heaven for vengeance: murder (Gn 4:10), sodomy (Gn 17:20-21), oppression of the poor (Ex 2:23), and defrauding workers of their just wages (Jas 5:4).

Sins against the Holy Spirit are mortal sins that harden a soul by its rejection of the Holy Spirit. Six sins are in this category. They are despair, presumption, envy, obstinacy in sin, final impenitence, and deliberate resistance to the known truth.

What are sins that cry to heaven for vengeance and sins against the Holy Spirit?