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Ted Cruz’s big problem: There isn’t really an ‘evangelical vote’ right now
The Washington Post's The Fix ^ | August 25, 2015 | Philip Bump

Posted on 08/25/2015 10:15:35 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

On Friday night, while the political media was transfixed watching Donald Trump's in-all-ways-secular stump ramble in Mobile, Ala., Ted Cruz was holding a deliberately religious rally in Des Moines.

Evangelical voters were always meant to be a linchpin of Cruz's presidential bid, and as our Katie Zezima and Tom Hamburger write, the Des Moines event was not shy about making that pitch. Blasting Planned Parenthood and lamenting the "persecution" of business owners sued for denying services to same-sex couples, Cruz was clearly trying to do two things: Plant his flag as the Republican crusader -- and prompt religious voters to vote on religion above other considerations.

So far, Cruz has floated around in the middle tier of the Republican field, never really surging ahead, but never dropping down into the 1-percenters. (In this context, that's a bad place to be.) And that's in large part because the white evangelical vote has mostly just echoed the overall Republican vote, according to Fox News polling....

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ATTACK, ATTACK, ATTACK!!
1 posted on 08/25/2015 10:15:35 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

LOL sounds like wishful thinking.


2 posted on 08/25/2015 10:17:08 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Pride goes before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

DEAR WAAAAAAH PO!

MR CRUZ is an avowed Christian...

that alone should be a clue as to how large a evangelical vote there is

SIncerely,

M.M.


3 posted on 08/25/2015 10:18:06 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey ("Never, Never, Never, Give Up," Winston Churchill ><>)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

That’s funny. What about those 500 people I got to church with?


4 posted on 08/25/2015 10:23:50 AM PDT by struggle
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To: MeshugeMikey

This article actually confirms exactly what Ted Cruz has said about the media and inside the beltway types.

I myself am not particularly religious or even belong to a church but I do truly believe in God and have true faith in him. More important to this argument is the fact that I know America must have Judeo Christian morality to survive.


5 posted on 08/25/2015 10:27:15 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Pride goes before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall.)
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To: struggle

Obviously they don’t vote. Just ask Philip.


6 posted on 08/25/2015 10:27:42 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (TED CRUZ. You can help: https://donate.tedcruz.org/c/FBTX0095/)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

There is an Evangelical vote and apparently Trump is running away with it, thus the motivation for this story to demoralize or scare off evangelicals away from Trump. The writer seems to use Ted Cruz to bounce around the religious right enough to make his point.


7 posted on 08/25/2015 10:29:04 AM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
That Washington Post reporter obviously has not visited the so-called Bible Belt region of the USA....
8 posted on 08/25/2015 10:29:45 AM PDT by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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To: struggle
Nobody here but us bitter clingers.




9 posted on 08/25/2015 10:30:53 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Pride goes before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Keep that illusion going in your head, Phil.


10 posted on 08/25/2015 10:32:29 AM PDT by TADSLOS (A Ted Cruz Happy Warrior! GO TED!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Ted Cruz’s biggest problem is that he had angered and threatened the very powerful cartel of corruption within the Republican party. As much as the GOPe despise the popularity of Trump they know they will not survive if the party is headed by Cruz. Cruz has threatened their political existence and they will do just about anything to keep their power.


11 posted on 08/25/2015 11:00:12 AM PDT by DaveyB (Live free or die!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

So, “there isn’t really and ‘evangelical vote’ right now,” huh?

Try to win an election without it. Can’t be done.


12 posted on 08/25/2015 11:04:07 AM PDT by fwdude (The last time the GOP ran an "extremist," Reagan won 44 states.)
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To: DaveyB
Ted Cruz’s biggest problem is that he had angered and threatened the very powerful cartel of corruption within the Republican party. As much as the GOPe despise the popularity of Trump they know they will not survive if the party is headed by Cruz. Cruz has threatened their political existence and they will do just about anything to keep their power.

No, Cruz's biggest problem is that he's not attracting GOP grass roots as quickly as Trump. Same problem everyone else running for the nomination has.

Some of his failure to win people over has to do with his stances on the issues, which I assume you've seen well demonstrated here on FR. Some of his detractors are quite vitriolic.

13 posted on 08/25/2015 11:15:21 AM PDT by Jack Black ( Disarmament of a targeted group is one of the surest early warning signs of future genocide.)
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To: fwdude
So, “there isn’t really and ‘evangelical vote’ right now,” huh?

Try to win an election without it. Can’t be done.

The point of the article is that evangelicals are mirroring the rest of the GOP. As Trump has surged with the GOP, he has surged with the evangelical subset. As Cruz has stagnated with the base, he has stagnated with the evangelical subset.

Cruz's hope is/was that the evangelical subset will have different issues, and that he can do much better with them than some other sub-segments of the base.

This has not proved out. In the past the evangelical vote has broken from the rest of the GOP and supported Huckabee in 2008 and Santorum in 2012. That support was enough to get them both top three finishes in those years.

Cruz isn't showing an ability to duplicate that dynamic yet.

14 posted on 08/25/2015 11:20:45 AM PDT by Jack Black ( Disarmament of a targeted group is one of the surest early warning signs of future genocide.)
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To: Jack Black
Cruz isn't showing an ability to duplicate that dynamic yet.

The entire dynamic has changed, even in the past 3 years. Old rules don't apply.

15 posted on 08/25/2015 11:28:23 AM PDT by fwdude (The last time the GOP ran an "extremist," Reagan won 44 states.)
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Try to win an election without it. Can’t be done

Are you saying that Obama won the evangelical vote twice?

16 posted on 08/25/2015 11:30:54 AM PDT by Jim Noble (You walk into the room like a camel and then you frown)
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To: Jack Black
...Some of his failure to win people over has to do with his stances on the issues...

Pretty much the marginalization that I expect from the GOPe and the media in order to keep Cruz's influence to a minimum. The playbook calls for a ban of discussion on the issues, instead pivot to polls with misrepresented positions and focus on the horse race to divide the opposition.

17 posted on 08/25/2015 11:36:24 AM PDT by DaveyB (Live free or die!)
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To: cripplecreek

God knows whats best for America,

We may have been being chastised ...under Obama..and I do mean under.

I sense that Ted Cruz’s Emergence may signal a dramatic shift


18 posted on 08/25/2015 11:38:34 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey ("Never, Never, Never, Give Up," Winston Churchill ><>)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I get nervous when Evangelicals vote by their religion. The last time they really did, we almost had Huck losing to Obama—probably even worse than McCain did.


19 posted on 08/25/2015 11:40:48 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Jim Noble

Not sure what you’re getting at. The GOP posted decidedly ANTI-evangelical candidates the past two presidential elections. That’s why they lost.


20 posted on 08/25/2015 11:43:52 AM PDT by fwdude (The last time the GOP ran an "extremist," Reagan won 44 states.)
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