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Are Half a Million Catholics Wrong?
One Peter Five ^ | August 22, 2015 | Steve Skojec

Posted on 08/23/2015 3:23:17 PM PDT by ebb tide

Earlier this year, a petition was started. It’s purpose was simple: it asks the Holy Father to calm the fears of Catholics around the world with a simple public assurance that those forces which are seeking to undermine Christ’s teaching on marriage will not prevail at the conclusion of the two-year Extraordinary Synod on Marriage and Family.

The text of the petition reads, in part:

Your Holiness, in light of information published on the last Synod, we note with anguish that, for millions of faithful Catholics, the beacon seems to have dimmed in face of the onslaught of lifestyles spread by anti-Christian lobbies. In fact we see widespread confusion arising from the possibility that a breach has been opened within the Church that would accept adultery—by permitting divorced and then civilly remarried Catholics to receive Holy Communion—and would virtually accept even homosexual unions when such practices are categorically condemned as being contrary to Divine and natural law.

Paradoxically, our hope stems from this confusion.

Truly, in these circumstances, a word from Your Holiness is the only way to clarify the growing confusion amongst the faithful. It would prevent the very teaching of Jesus Christ from being watered-down and would dispel the darkness looming over our children’s future should that beacon no longer light their way.

Holy Father, we implore You to say this word. We do so with a heart devoted to all that You are and represent. We do so with the certainty that Your word will never disassociate pastoral practice from the teaching bequeathed by Jesus Christ and his vicars—as this would only add to the confusion. Indeed Jesus taught us very clearly that there must be coherence between life and truth (cf. John 14:6-7); and He also warned us that the only way not to fall is to practice His doctrine. (cf. Matt. 7:24-27)

Since the petition was launched, over half a million Catholics around the world have signed it. Not just laymen, but priests and prelates as well. Among the notable ecclesiastical signatories are Archbishop Pagotto of Paraíba, Brazil; Bishop Vasa of Santa Rosa, California; Bishop Athanasius Schneider of Astana, Kazakhstan; Cardinal Medina Estévez of Chile; Cardinal Raymond Burke, former prefect of the Apostolic Signatura; Cardinal Pujats, Archbishop Emeritus of Riga in Latvia, and so on. In fact, the list of notable persons in the Church and in the secular world who have put their name on the document has become quite lengthy.

And yet, there has been not a word from Pope Francis.

The very same Pope Francis who advises his priests to be “shepherds living with ‘the smell of the sheep’, shepherds in the midst of their flock, fishers of men.” The same Pope Francis who speaks always of those people on the “peripheries”; who very publicly meets with the disaffected and marginalized, who holds private audiences with Marxists and the transgendered, who meets with gay and transgendered inmates, who graciously accepts Communist Crucifixes without a word of condemnation, who invites movie stars from the far left of Hollywood to meet with him in the Vatican, and so on.

Fine. The Pope should spread the Gospel to everyone, no matter who they are. He should share the truth and necessity of the Catholic Faith wherever he goes. I agree.

But is it too much to ask that he make time for actual Catholics, too?

Are the faithful — like “abortion, gay marriage and the use of contraceptive methods” — something that requires “a context” in order for him to feel comfortable speaking to them? Does Pope Francis not want to appear “obsessed” with them, since “the teaching of the church, for that matter, is clear” and “it is not necessary to talk” to these people “all the time”?

Does he feel that “the Church has already spoken quite clearly” to faithful Catholics, and thus, “it was unnecessary to return” to them?

When Fr. Raymond De Souza asks, “Does Francis think Cardinal Kasper is right?” – how do we answer him? More to the point, how do we answer all the people in our homeschool groups and parishes and families and circles of friends and Facebook communities who are asking the same thing?

How do we tell people, “Yeah, the pope’s totally going to go save the day on this, don’t worry!” when he won’t even say a word about a petition with half a million signatures – many from his own bishops, who are trying to figure out how to hold the line if he won’t?

I’ll no doubt be characterized as the crazy one for asking the question. How can I doubt him? Do I honestly think he’s OK with the Kasper Agenda? What do I expect? He’s a busy guy. I’ll also be reminded a 4,037 times that “the gates of hell will not prevail against the Church.”

I got it. I know. I’m Catholic. I’m up-to-date on my Catechism.

But if Pope Francis intends to uphold Church teaching on this, why is it so hard to just come right out and say it? He’s not smoking any lurking villains out of the shadows. They’re already basking in the spotlight. A spotlight that he himself has shined on them.

We are entitled to expect this from the Vicar of Christ. He has a duty to the faithful to guard the faith, not leave them wondering if he will falter, and if that means everything they believe in is a lie. Does that sound drastic? Because it’s exactly the kind of thing I’ve seen people speculating about. You can blame them all you want, you can call them unfaithful, poorly catechized, or lacking in trust. You can accuse people of schism because they lose faith with Rome and go seeking moral certitude elsewhere. On some level, you may be right. But they’re like children asking their father for bread, and being handed stones. (Mt. 7:9-11) Why must we beg him for reassurance? Why must we petition the pope to preserve and defend the faith?

There’s no more time for excuses. There’s no more benefit of the doubt in the reservoir. We’re a little over a month away from the Synod.

Please, Holy Father – answer the question.


TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Moral Issues
KEYWORDS: adultery; francis; homos; sinnod
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1 posted on 08/23/2015 3:23:17 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

I am not Catholic, but I am catholic. There are great concerns in the world that would be better met by a Pope like Urban II. Christianity depends upon it.


2 posted on 08/23/2015 3:38:11 PM PDT by ConservativeInPA (Do Not Vote for List: See my profile)
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To: ebb tide

The Pope can be wrong. If he makes an Ex Cathedra Statement without concurrence of the Bishops, at least ALL of the Cardinals, it is not infallible and still wrong. He must be “in union” with all the bishops.


3 posted on 08/23/2015 3:39:31 PM PDT by arthurus (It's true.)
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To: ebb tide

Translation: “Why isnt the Pope doing what I asked? I’ve politely couched my demand in the form of a request, and now I’m repeating myself for public attention. I want the Pope to dance to my tune. I don’t want to be patient. I don’t want to be humble. I want what I want and I want it now”.


4 posted on 08/23/2015 3:45:47 PM PDT by mountainbunny (Faithless is he that says farewell when the road darkens ~ JR.R. Tolkien)
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To: ebb tide

The pope cares more about taking money from those who earn it and giving it to those who don’t, than about a silly Catholic teaching about marriage.


5 posted on 08/23/2015 4:01:04 PM PDT by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible. Complicit in the destruction of this country)
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To: mountainbunny

No. The question is, “Why isn’t this Pope obeying the teachings of Jesus Christ?”


6 posted on 08/23/2015 4:01:31 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: mountainbunny

That is not a translation; it is putting the worst possible slant on things without any reason to do so.


7 posted on 08/23/2015 4:06:24 PM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: ebb tide

Likely we are all wrong. To what extent? We won’t know ‘til we meet our maker.


8 posted on 08/23/2015 4:07:50 PM PDT by paintriot (TRUMP: THE 10 Billion Dollar Man- Better, Stronger, Faster!!!)
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To: ebb tide
No. The question is, “Why isn't this Pope obeying the teachings of Jesus Christ?”

Maybe he believes he is. Aren't you supposed to obey your pope? It sound like you aren't getting your way and you're having a hissy fit. There are lots of churches. Pick one you agree with. I once was Epicolpalian and I switched to Presbyterian.

9 posted on 08/23/2015 4:17:35 PM PDT by Cry if I Wanna
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To: Cry if I Wanna

Sorry, but the Presbyterian “church” has already approved homo marriages; so I can understand your bias towards sodomy.


10 posted on 08/23/2015 4:26:20 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: Cry if I Wanna

Maybe he believes he is. Aren’t you supposed to obey your pope? It sound like you aren’t getting your way and you’re having a hissy fit. There are lots of churches. Pick one you agree with. I once was Epicolpalian and I switched to Presbyterian. “ ———

Actually, there may be “lots of churches” but to a devout Catholic, there is but one Church, so it is never going to be a matter of running out and parking your big Buick in front of another church down the street and calling it the Church. This means one stays for the fight even when the place is on fire. Just sayin’.


11 posted on 08/23/2015 4:32:12 PM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming)
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To: Cry if I Wanna
Aren't you supposed to obey your pope?

Our Pope is supposed to obey Our Lord Jesus Christ.

12 posted on 08/23/2015 4:52:30 PM PDT by pbear8 (the Lord is my light and my salvation)
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To: mountainbunny
Translation: “Why isnt the Pope doing what I asked?

Is the Pope attacking the Sixth Commandment by proxy? Why are his closest advisers and collaborators publicly trashing doctrine (apparently with his blessing)?

13 posted on 08/23/2015 5:20:09 PM PDT by BlatherNaut
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To: ebb tide
I’ll also be reminded a 4,037 times that “the gates of hell will not prevail against the Church.”

What's this guys FReeper handle?

14 posted on 08/23/2015 5:38:38 PM PDT by BipolarBob (Hillary for prison in 2016!)
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To: ebb tide

Why in this petition are pronouns referring to the Pope in caps (eg. You, Your)?


15 posted on 08/23/2015 7:39:42 PM PDT by Ouchthatonehurt ("When you're going through hell, keep going." - Sir Winston Churchill)
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To: ebb tide
Sorry, but the Presbyterian “church” has already approved homo marriages; so I can understand your bias towards sodomy.

There are many Presbyterians on FR. And we don't believe in sodomy. America was built on Protestantism. But we appreciate catholics too. They were the workers who built our factories, mansions and country clubs.

16 posted on 08/23/2015 8:32:15 PM PDT by Cry if I Wanna
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To: pbear8; Cry if I Wanna

That didn’t answer the question.


17 posted on 08/23/2015 8:54:13 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: ebb tide; Cry if I Wanna

What kind of response is that?

An assumption or projection?

In either case, it was a really cheap shot, totally uncalled for and not a very positive representation of Catholicism.


18 posted on 08/23/2015 8:57:15 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: metmom; ebb tide; Cry if I Wanna
In either case, it was a really cheap shot, totally uncalled for and not a very positive representation of Catholicism.

On the other hand it was an outstanding representation of many of the snarky, smarmy, comments that frequently come from the non-Catholics, especially the ones that claim to be former Catholics.

19 posted on 08/24/2015 7:54:05 AM PDT by verga (I might as well be playng chess with pigeons.)
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To: ebb tide

Of all the verses Catholics zero in on and make much of, why not this:

“Leave them; they are blind guides. If the blind lead the blind, both will fall into a pit.”—Matt. 15:14


20 posted on 08/24/2015 8:06:19 AM PDT by avenir (I'm pessimistic about man, but I'm optimistic about GOD!)
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