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To: terycarl

It is astonishing how many people have been poisoned with hatred of Mary, to such as extent that they can look at a formally valid syllogism, and declare it invalid. Or they can look at a declaration in the gospel that Mary is the mother of God—”Who am I that the mother of my Lord should come to me?”—and deny that it is saying any such thing.


1,102 posted on 08/25/2015 6:49:12 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan (Beau Biden's funeral, attended by Bishop Malooly of Wilmington, Cardinal McCarrick)
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To: Arthur McGowan

The point of saying she is “the Mother of God” is that God became man, through being born of a virgin.

God “visited His people,” took on human form, and in doing so, He just didn’t appear as a man, as God other times did in the Old Testament. He came as a baby in the womb of a woman.

I have almost no doubt that you don’t know that these points are articulated in the Five Fundamentals of fundamental Christianity. In the same way, I’m sure you know that Bible-believing evangelicals believe this.

But the above is all that your syllogism covers. And there is so much more to logic than what you mention, when you study all the different rules for it. But yes, Mary is “Mother of God,” within some very limited sense.

Catholics also don’t believe, though, that as Jesus existed with the Father, and of course the Holy Spirit, before the world began, that Mary is the mother of the Tri-une God, or that Jesus didn’t exist before He was born to Mary. That’s all evangelicals are discounting.

A lot of this is just obfuscation that begins with our limited and incomplete understanding of the Trinity. We have simply not been given a complete understanding of it by God.

And the problem with the Catholic title of “Mother of God” is that the context seems deliberately downplayed and put out of the mind in all sorts of ways and exalting Mary begins to be brought in from there, to the point she ends up being Co-Redemptrix and someone a Catholic should devote themselves to completely.


1,125 posted on 08/25/2015 7:20:04 PM PDT by Faith Presses On ("After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations...")
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To: Arthur McGowan
It is astonishing how many people have been poisoned with hatred of Mary, to such as extent that they can look at a formally valid syllogism, and declare it invalid. Or they can look at a declaration in the gospel that Mary is the mother of God—”Who am I that the mother of my Lord should come to me?”—and deny that it is saying any such thing.

As usual, they are trying their best to justify their falling away from true Christianity....the Bible really didn't mean this, or the Bible was just talking about bread, not transubstantiation, Mary is buried somewhere but nobody remembers where....when you make serious errors in your life, you do anything that you can think of to justify them.....it never works.

1,128 posted on 08/25/2015 7:22:26 PM PDT by terycarl (COMMON SENSE PREVAILS OVER ALL)
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To: Arthur McGowan
It is astonishing how many people have been poisoned with hatred of Mary, to such as extent that they can look at a formally valid syllogism, and declare it invalid.

It is astonishing how many people have been poisoned with the non-biblical veneration, adoration, prayers to Mary; to such as extent; that they can look at Scripture and flatly DENY what it plainly says.

1,185 posted on 08/26/2015 5:14:31 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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