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Is Your Church Worshipping in Vain?
Self ^ | LearsFool

Posted on 08/06/2015 9:05:01 AM PDT by LearsFool

"Ye hypocrites, well did Isaiah prophesy of you, saying,

This people honoreth me with their lips;
But their heart is far from me.
But in vain do they worship me,
Teaching as their doctrines the precepts of men."
- Matt. 15:7-9

Jesus confronted the religious leaders of His day often, and exposed their man-made teachings and practices - ostensibly invented for serving God. In inventing these traditions, they had in fact invalidated (made void) the word of God (Mt. 15:6, Mk. 7:13).

What does it mean to have a heart that is far from God? Does it mean being a pagan, Satanist, atheist, polytheist, etc?

In the passage above which Jesus quotes from Isaiah, this heart is one that substitutes his own ideas for God's, while at the same time claiming to be serving Him. It's the one who's "got a great idea!", rather than humbly submitting to what the Lord has commanded. It's the one who comes up with great plans to accomplish God's goals more effectively, instead of meekly following God's plan and trusting Him to accomplish what He wills, in the way He wills.

Such a person invents his own ways to serve God, to please God, and to worship God, and then expects God to accept them. But though he honors God with his lips, his heart is far from Him. Otherwise he would simply do what God says...and God would be pleased.

What's the result of such hubris, willfulness, haughtiness? Vain worship. Not vain in the sense of conceited, but in the sense of being pointless, not achieving its purpose.

Worship of God has a purpose, but that purpose is not achieved when we invent our own ways of doing it. If our hearts are so far from God that we do things our way instead of His, we may as well stay home and sleep in on Sunday. After all, they both accomplish the same goal in the way of worship.

Imagine a wife asking her husband what he'd like for his birthday dinner. After all, she says, it's his special day. He says he'd like fried chicken, mashed potatoes, and chocolate cake. Later he comes home to a dinner of HER favorite meal - pot roast and apple pie - instead. Was she really interested in pleasing her husband?

Is your church worshipping in vain? Invalidating the word of God? Does your church do things that "sound like a great idea!" but are not found in God's instruction book? Look around next Sunday. Ask around. Whose precepts are guiding your church, man's or God's? Keep your ears open for phrases like, "Well I think..." or "It seems to me..." and other expressions that can indicate a heart that is far from God.

Honoring Him with our lips isn't enough. If our hearts are near to Him, we will follow only His commands.

And we'll leave our own ideas in the parking lot where they belong.


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1 posted on 08/06/2015 9:05:01 AM PDT by LearsFool
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To: LearsFool

Use this guideline as a measure...
*It was founded by Jesus Christ Himself in Mt 16:18.
*It would be built on Simon Peter, Mt 16:18.
*It would be defended by GOD Himself, Mt 16:18-19.
*It would have authority given by Jesus Christ, Mt 16:19,18:17-18.
*It would be guided by the Holy Spirit who will dwell within it, Jn 14:15-17, Act 15:28,16:6.
*It would be one and undivided, Mk 3:24-25.
*It would have one fold and one shepherd, Jn 10:16.
*It would have Priests, Bishops, and Deacons, 1Tim 3:1-13.
*It must have the Holy Eucharist celebration, Jn 6:42-70, Acts 2:42.
*It must be found in all nations, Mt 28:19.
*It must be found in all centuries, Mt 28:20.
*Jesus Christ said He would be with His Church every day, in every year, until the end of the world, Mt 28:20. (This means no gaps in time.)


2 posted on 08/06/2015 9:12:42 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: LearsFool

Thank you for posting!!!

I’ve felt the same way for years but you have articulated it perfectly!


3 posted on 08/06/2015 9:26:37 AM PDT by joethedrummer
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To: Salvation

Although not Catholic, I admire many aspects of The Church having studied Catholicism in my youth.

The current Pope however, being socialist at best or fundamentally stupid (no other possibility but both), some of those tenets unfortunately seem to be eroding rather quickly.


4 posted on 08/06/2015 9:41:22 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: Salvation
*It would be built on Simon Peter, Mt 16:18.

Christians prefer the one built on Jesus.
5 posted on 08/06/2015 9:43:36 AM PDT by Old Yeller (Civil rights are for civilized people.)
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To: LearsFool

If you watched “The Passion of Christ” by Mel Gibson, what did you think of it?


6 posted on 08/06/2015 9:55:53 AM PDT by xzins (Don't let others pay your share; reject Freep-a-Fare! Donate-https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: LearsFool

Maybe people who look around on a Sunday, may be worshipping in vain, transgressing His 4th Command regarding His Sabbath- all the while thinking they aren’t.. But that might go also for those who would look around on Saturday too..it does in this 5th month of His.

Now that would be interesting if those ‘traditions of men’ in church or synagogues today would be considered vain worship by Him..

It would be easier to see if the World used His Calendar and not Rome’s to know when His Sabbaths were (and this month, the amuslims and their Friday prayers stumbled into His Sabbath-ironic to be sure)

Amazing what can be seen when traditions of men are replaced with scriptural templates..

But traditions of men would call today Thor’s Day, caesar augustus’ 6th.

Not what Scripture would call today as His 6th Day, the 21st Day of His 5th month- a Day commemorating when He made the living creatures ,cattle, creeping, things and beasts. And man in His image.

Worship Him who made Heaven, the sea and the fountains of water
Angel in Revelation 14:7

Pretty similar to why the Sabbath was to be holy and set apart- Exodus 20:8-11

Interesting traditions the world has today.


7 posted on 08/06/2015 10:14:53 AM PDT by delchiante
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To: LearsFool

Churches are for sinners. Prayers are for God. Where two or more are gathered in His name, He is present.

I am, and will always be, unworthy. Though I work at it every day, I will always be unworthy. Through the perfect grace of Jesus Christ, however, I am saved. It is only through Christ that I am saved.


8 posted on 08/06/2015 10:19:24 AM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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To: LearsFool; Salvation

I always find it helpful to read the context of Matthew 15:1-6 in understanding vv. 7-9.

Specifically, understanding the word Corban (rendered “gift” in the KJV and DRB), and how that was mis-used to exempt somebody of their 4th Commandment duties, really adds a huge depth of understanding to why Jesus took that specific moment to rant at the Pharisees. The utter hypocrisy they displayed would be maddening, wouldn’t it?

What makes it particularly interesting is if you take the time to understand the Torah and, if you can, the Babylonian Talmud, about the practice...


9 posted on 08/06/2015 10:23:18 AM PDT by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good -- Leo XIII)
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To: LearsFool

we may as well stay home and sleep in on Sunday. After all, they both accomplish the same goal in the way of worship.


That is the key, Did Jesus teach us what we should do in church on Sunday or did he teach us a way of life that we should live every day?


10 posted on 08/06/2015 10:28:09 AM PDT by ravenwolf (If the Bible don`t say it, don`t preach it to me.)
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To: LearsFool
Is your church worshipping in vain? Invalidating the word of God? Does your church do things that "sound like a great idea!" but are not found in God's instruction book? Look around next Sunday,

Gen 2:2 And on the seventh day God ended His work which He had done, and He rested on the seventh day from all His work which He had done.
Gen 2:3 Then God blessed the seventh day and sanctified it, because in it He rested from all His work which God had created and made.

Which day?

Exo 20:8 "Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy.
Exo 20:9 Six days you shall labor and do all your work,
Exo 20:10 but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the LORD your God. In it you shall do no work: you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your male servant, nor your female servant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger who is within your gates.
Exo 20:11 For in six days the LORD made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the LORD blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it.

Which day? The seventh. One of the ten commandments of God.

Luk_6:5 And He said to them, "The Son of Man is also Lord of the Sabbath."

Traditional Christianity has abandoned the biblical sabbath and prefers their own sabbath. They've made the commandment of Christ of no effect.

11 posted on 08/06/2015 10:32:42 AM PDT by DouglasKC (I'm pro-choice when it comes to lion killing....)
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To: LearsFool

If you think about it, such actions are vain because they call God a liar, claiming He said something He didn’t say and that He didn’t say something He said. That’s the definition of being a false prophet, a ravening wolf, according to Christ. In Matt. 7:15-23 Christ condemns unrepentant false prophets to hell.


12 posted on 08/06/2015 10:37:17 AM PDT by afsnco
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To: Old Yeller

Matthew 16)
18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

If you read acts you can see where Peter actually started the church exactly as Jesus said.


13 posted on 08/06/2015 10:39:37 AM PDT by ravenwolf (If the Bible don`t say it, don`t preach it to me.)
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To: LearsFool

Doing the works of the law do not render someone pleasing to God. The Lord said He seeks those who will worship Him in spirit and in truth. Being made pleasing to God is another way to express the idea of justification. Our justification is through faith in the finished work of Christ, not in our sin-corrupted works. Our worship is not in vain if we worship in spirit and in truth, as Jesus said. Such worship is impossible for those who are “in the flesh” and not in the Spirit, as Paul says, because the natural man is at war with God, has no faith, and therefore cannot please Him, no matter what they try to do.

Remember what Jesus said about being justified? The man who went to the place of worship and was able to list off al his righteous acts. Was he justified? Or was it the guy in the back row, who couldn’t even bear to look heavenward, but yet he begged God for mercy, knowing he was just a sinful man? Who went home justified that day?

The regulative principle is a great thing, and no one should invent modes of worship not prescribed by Scripture. On the other hand, the NT model for worship is very open-ended, and has far more to do with love than liturgy. But even if we granted some precise form of worship, when precise observance overtakes the weightier matters of the law, Justice, mercy, and faith, one can become a blind guide to the blind, and together both will fall in the pit.

Peace,

SR


14 posted on 08/06/2015 10:41:44 AM PDT by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: DouglasKC

Exo 20:8 “Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy.


That is right, holding Church on Sunday is fine, but calling it the Sabbath is just the same as calling God a liar.


15 posted on 08/06/2015 10:43:32 AM PDT by ravenwolf (If the Bible don`t say it, don`t preach it to me.)
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To: joethedrummer

You’re welcome. And thank you for the kind compliment. :-)


16 posted on 08/06/2015 10:51:05 AM PDT by LearsFool (Real men get their wives and children to heaven.)
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To: xzins

No, I haven’t watched “The Passion of Christ”. I heard The Book was better. ;-)


17 posted on 08/06/2015 10:52:25 AM PDT by LearsFool (Real men get their wives and children to heaven.)
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To: LearsFool

Worth the watch.


18 posted on 08/06/2015 10:58:34 AM PDT by xzins (Don't let others pay your share; reject Freep-a-Fare! Donate-https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: markomalley
Specifically, understanding the word Corban...

Yes, indeed.

"Sorry Mom, Dad, I'd love to help you out, but I gave it all to God!"
19 posted on 08/06/2015 11:08:31 AM PDT by LearsFool (Real men get their wives and children to heaven.)
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To: LearsFool

How can a brick and mortar building worship God...

The “church” is made up of believers...

“Where two or more are gathered in my name”...


20 posted on 08/06/2015 11:09:14 AM PDT by Popman (Christ Alone: My Cornerstone...)
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