I've gotten to about midway on this thread, and find very little answering the question posed by your title, although there has been a lot of second-guessinf on eschatology.
Ain't FR wunnerful??!
724 posted on 08/01/2015 3:28:51 AM PDT by Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)