What to do if you missed the Rapture

Youtube ^ | July 15, 2015 | Ed Hinson

[left that other site]

EGGZACTLY!

And Chrysler just found out that their CARS can be controlled from afar.

Cool, huh? (shudder)

[editor-surveyor]

Satan is very much in the presence of the Father, as accuser of the saints.

There is no scripture to the contrary.

[ravenwolf]

Satan is very much in the presence of the Father, as accuser of the saints.

There is no scripture to the contrary.

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True, if satan can use a believer such as Paul to put down the other apostles it puts a big feather in his cap.

[editor-surveyor]

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>> “Right now, The restrainer is restraining the evil” <<

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Nonsense.

The restrainer (mistranslation)is Satan.
He is in the presence of the Father presently, and that fact restrains the events of the 70th week.

When he is taken out and cast to Earth, the 70th week begins.

[editor-surveyor]

I’ll wast no more of our time arguing with what you have imagined.

Fractured dispensationalism is much like jello.

[editor-surveyor]

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>> “WAKE UP , and DUMP that SATANIC CHURCH that’s LYING TO YOU !” <<

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That would be an excellent place to start.

[editor-surveyor]

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>> “I figure by then they’ll believe God removed us to get us out of their way.” <<

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When we are removed, they won’t have but a moment to think anything.

The bowl judgements begin as we leave. It will be an unimaginable horror.

[caww]

Good responses there Bob....it's always interesting to imagine the possibilities of how missing people might be seen by the worlds people left behind. Of course we're going to a feast to celebrate and see him face to face! There really are no words for what this will be for Christians.....

With all the media seen as it is today, and government so full of corrupt lying leaders any story framed will be pretty much accepted....the majority of non-christians today are self-deluded anyway....

....And following ding-a-lings as this even when proven wrong...

[caww]

Well....we disagree on when the departure is and the bowl judgments begin...so lets leave it at that.

[editor-surveyor]

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>> “Understanding the Feast Times of Israel is a useful tool in getting at the Truth in Scriptures. Jesus fulfilled ALL of the Spring Feast forshadowing of Him on the actual day prescribed in chapter 23 of Leviticus. He will doubtless fulfill the Fall Feasts in the same fashion. So understanding the Feasts and what they foreshadow is a useful part of a believer’s data set.” <<

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I see that you have been reading Mark Biltz and Michael Rood. :o)
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[Bob434]

[[I’ll wast no more of our time arguing with what you have imagined.]]

Good because your tone is condescending and not very civil- have a nice day-

[Bob434]

[[Nonsense.

The restrainer (mistranslation)is Satan.
He is in the presence of the Father presently, and that fact restrains the events of the 70th week.]]

wow- ok- whatever- have a nice day

[editor-surveyor]

Impediment would be a closer translation.

[Partisan Gunslinger]

You guys ought to read the scriptures before you come up with these arguments... We Christians don't follow Jesus or Satan when it comes to the Rapture...Satan won't deceive anyone in the Rapture... You are sitting at your kitchen table and zoom, you are gone...No one asks you anything...You don't have a choice in the matter...

Do you actually believe God will allow jet aircraft to fall from the sky when pilots disappear?

That's just one example.

[Yosemitest]

"... when I said the word “rapture” is in the Latin version of 1 Thess. 4.
I was referring to the Greek word “harpazo,” in Latin “rapture,” in English it is “caught up” (verse 17)."

Harpazo from The KJV New Testament Greek Lexicon:

Strong's Number: 726

Definition
to seize, carry off by force
to seize on, claim for one's self eagerly
to snatch out or away

And from the Online Etymology Dictionary:

rapture (n.)

c. 1600, "act of carrying off," from Middle French rapture, from Medieval Latin raptura "seizure, rape, kidnapping," from Latin raptus "a carrying off, abduction, snatching away; rape" (see rapt). Earliest attested use in English is of women and in 17c. it sometimes meant rape (v.), which word is a cognate of this. Sense of "spiritual ecstasy, state of mental transport" first recorded c. 1600 (raptures).

rapture (v.)

1630s, from rapture (n.). Related: Raptured; rapturing.

I don't see it IN the Latin Vulgate Online at THE FIRST EPISTLE OF ST. PAUL TO THE THESSALONIANS: Chapter 4 ( English/Latin ):

4	14	For this we say unto you in the word of the Lord, that we who are alive, who remain unto the coming of the Lord, shall not prevent them who have slept.	si enim credimus quod Iesus mortuus est et resurrexit ita et Deus eos qui dormierunt per Iesum adducet cum eo
4	15	For the Lord himself shall come down from heaven with commandment and with the voice of an archangel and with the trumpet of God: and the dead who are in Christ shall rise first.	hoc enim vobis dicimus in verbo Domini quia nos qui vivimus qui residui sumus in adventum Domini non praeveniemus eos qui dormierunt
4	16	Then we who are alive, who are left, shall be taken up together with them in the clouds to meet Christ, into the air: and so shall we be always with the Lord.	quoniam ipse Dominus in iussu et in voce archangeli et in tuba Dei descendet de caelo et mortui qui in Christo sunt resurgent primi
4	17	Wherefore, comfort ye one another with these words.	deinde nos qui vivimus qui relinquimur simul rapiemur cum illis in nubibus obviam Domino in aera et sic semper cum Domino erimus

But I DO SEE "descendet" :

Latin
Verb
dēscendet

1. third-person singular future active indicative of dēscendō

1. climb down, to come down, to descend
2. march down
3. pierce, to penetrate
4. slope down (said of mountains)
5. sink (said of the voice)
6. lower oneself, to stoop

SO ... (unless this online site is wrong) ... the Latin word raptura "seizure, rape, kidnapping," from Latin raptus is NOT in the Bible !

[Iscool]

Do you actually believe God will allow jet aircraft to fall from the sky when pilots disappear?

Do I believe God opened a body of water and drowned a bunch of men and horses??? Absolutely on both counts...

[Iscool]

Rev 19 takes place during the Tribulation...The church (the Bride) is in heaven getting married...

>>No, not until the judgment of the great whore at the close of the tribulation, amidst the rejoicing that the millennial has come, Rev. 19:1-6, does the marriage of the Lamb take place, only then is his wife said to be ready, Rev. 19:7-9.

The battle of Armageddon is the event that is at the close of the Tribulation...The destruction of the whore is toward the end of the Tribulation...

The Wedding takes place in heaven...The scene in chapter 19 is in heaven...

After the whore is destroyed, the Wedding takes place...After the Wedding, Jesus heads out to deal with the battle of Armageddon on the earth...

[Not gonna take it anymore]

It doesn’t actually matter to me because I don’t believe the in same kind of Rapture that you seem to.

Not worth arguing about in any case as it has no impact on my salvation.

[Elsie]

The ‘vast cloud of witnesses’ (angels?) have been recording this info forever; it’s just NOW that the STATE has the powers to do so as well.

The cameras, that are watching your car at intersections, seem to be pointing in the WINDSHIELD (not the license plate)

The ones on the highway know WHEN you went by and how far it was to the camera before it; thus it knows how FAST you are going.
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Is the camera on your fone REALLY turned off right now??

[Elsie]

Is the GPS on your phone REALLY not functioning at this moment?