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1 posted on 07/12/2015 5:38:08 AM PDT by steve8714
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Today at Mass, the priest for some reason brought up the prophet Amos

Perhaps it's because the Old Testament reading came from Amos.

2 posted on 07/12/2015 5:42:33 AM PDT by johniegrad
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Not all priests are idiots.


3 posted on 07/12/2015 5:43:14 AM PDT by HChampagne
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The Mass is still the Mass, even if you have the most liberal socialist hippy priest. I would stay for Holy Communion. I would also talk to the priest after, write to the bishop, and the Vatican. It’s ok to complain. Might also look for the next closest parish. We don’t have to stay silent! But I wouldn’t let a bad priest chase me away from the Sacraments.


4 posted on 07/12/2015 5:45:05 AM PDT by NewCenturions
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Well for me, the old joke about "Is the Pope Catholic" is now no longer a standard response to an affirmative answer...

As a non-Catholic, I really do feel for my fellow Catholic brothers and sisters, to watch and see how this Pontiff has turned into the Obama of your faith must be painful to bear...

5 posted on 07/12/2015 5:46:55 AM PDT by Popman (Christ Alone: My Cornerstone...)
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Priest compares pope to prophet Amos
A better comparison might be to Al Gore.
6 posted on 07/12/2015 5:57:09 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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I started going to another parish because my previous one was run by liberals. I wanted to volunteer and be part of the committee after I was involved with teaching a few RCIA classes, but they weren't interested in listening to anyone other than their own "inner circle". When I found out that one of these inner circle's pet projects was a local left-wing organization with direct political influence, I decided to find another place. The priest at the previous place was a nice man, but very old, frail, and passive. My current priest is very bold and no-nonsense. Smart man and not at all "politically correct".

That being said, I would never let anyone prevent me from taking part in the Eucharist. I don't care who they are.

7 posted on 07/12/2015 5:59:41 AM PDT by grimalkin (We are a nation under God. If we ever forget this, we are a nation gone under. -Ronald Reagan)
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...when Father Jack at Our Lady of Guadalupe railed about "the corrupt men who control Alan Greenspan".

LOL! He didn't know Alan Greenspan was the corrupt man.

8 posted on 07/12/2015 6:00:23 AM PDT by SeeSharp
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As a devout Catholic this Bishop of Rome sickens me. I would love to see the argument between John Paul II and Francis. Where is the Catherine of Sienna in our day? We need someone like her to call out this man and publicly chastise him.


9 posted on 07/12/2015 6:06:12 AM PDT by STJPII
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I hate to say it, but the current Pope is more like one the lying prophets that stood before King Ahaz in 1st Kings 22.


10 posted on 07/12/2015 6:21:23 AM PDT by ducttape45 (My USA is now dead.)
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Today at Mass, the priest for some reason brought up the prophet Amos. I was fairly sure I knew where this was going, but stayed for the end. When he passed through slavery and war to get to our Pontiff's call for worldwide totalitarian government to redistribute income (isn't slavery the ultimate income redistribution?)I had heard enough and left. I haven't left Mass in the middle since the Sunday after 9/11/2001 when Father Jack at Our Lady of Guadalupe railed about "the corrupt men who control Alan Greenspan".

I'd look for a new parish if I were you.

11 posted on 07/12/2015 6:22:11 AM PDT by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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Remember, we are the CHURCH MILITANT! If our religious leaders do not follow Church teaching=what Jesus taught, we are required to pray for them but also to FIGHT! If they are politically liberal, it is ok to challenge them. They should be concerned about souls, not push communism or green mother earth worship. But a priest gives us the Sacraments and I would never leave Mass. I WOULD confront the priest after Mass, though.


12 posted on 07/12/2015 6:27:13 AM PDT by LYDIAONTARIO
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Ping to assist Steve8714

Priest compares pope to prophet Amos, steve8714 wrote: Fellow Catholics, what are your thoughts?


13 posted on 07/12/2015 6:30:30 AM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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Furthermore, the church being Universal, you can give your financial support to a poor mission or conservative parish. I would drop $5 in the plate for candles but not give money if I thought my priest was a leftist.


14 posted on 07/12/2015 6:35:20 AM PDT by LYDIAONTARIO
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I would definitely schedule a meeting with the priest, and then proceed to rip him apart. Tell him in no uncertain terms that the next time he does this, that you will openly protest during his sermon and you will “call him out” on the spot. If he does this again, call him out.

Openly protest in front of your fellow parishioners, talk to your fellow parishioners about it, tell them the priest is a fool, and start a campaign to have him replaced.


15 posted on 07/12/2015 6:35:21 AM PDT by Ouderkirk (To the left, everything must evidence that this or that strand of leftist theory is true)
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The vast majority of priests willingly adjusted their thoughts to conform to the pope’s wishes. They are the ultimate sheep.

This pope’s pronouncements are in conflict with the teaching of the church up to this time. Read Divini Redemptoris. He should too.


16 posted on 07/12/2015 7:07:45 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible. Complicit in the destruction of this country)
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Reading 1 Am 7:12-15

Amaziah, priest of Bethel, said to Amos,
“Off with you, visionary, flee to the land of Judah!
There earn your bread by prophesying,
but never again prophesy in Bethel;
for it is the king’s sanctuary and a royal temple.”
Amos answered Amaziah, “I was no prophet,
nor have I belonged to a company of prophets;
I was a shepherd and a dresser of sycamores.
The LORD took me from following the flock, and said to me,
Go, prophesy to my people Israel.”


19 posted on 07/12/2015 8:39:21 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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Having read some of the social encyclicals like Rerum Novarum, I think the Pope is trying to say something that we are blocked from hearing clearly because of our secular ideas, including political.

The popes encourage a way which is based on Christ, on love for God and for our neighbors.

It is sometimes difficult for Americans to grasp that the Pope considers events and situations around the world, not just in the US. With 80 million Catholics, only a small percentage of who practice their faith, of the world’s 1 Billion Catholics, he has to think of more than just us!

So consider the environmental thing. He said we have to consider the poor when determining policy.

So let’s look at nations which decided to “go green” and now preen themselves on how they are not polluting. Well, a lot of the items necessary for going green like the windmills require rare earth metals, and the rapid increase in mining for these REM has devastated parts of China. I mean, those places look like warzones.

Had the green-wannabees taken the poor into account, had the government of China taken the poor into account, had the companies involved taken their employees into account, perhaps the process might have been slowed and developed in a way that did not destroy the surrounding land. But noooooo, the greenies had to get what they wanted when they wanted it, and the government and the company had to get their money...

So I think the Pope is still, in the Catholic way, bringing people to repentance and metanoia.


20 posted on 07/12/2015 8:40:17 AM PDT by Chicory
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Having read some of the social encyclicals like Rerum Novarum, I think the Pope is trying to say something that we are blocked from hearing clearly because of our secular ideas, including political.

The popes encourage a way which is based on Christ, on love for God and for our neighbors.

It is sometimes difficult for Americans to grasp that the Pope considers events and situations around the world, not just in the US. With 80 million Catholics, only a small percentage of who practice their faith, of the world’s 1 Billion Catholics, he has to think of more than just us!

So consider the environmental thing. He said we have to consider the poor when determining policy.

So let’s look at nations which decided to “go green” and now preen themselves on how they are not polluting. Well, a lot of the items necessary for going green like the windmills require rare earth metals, and the rapid increase in mining for these REM has devastated parts of China. I mean, those places look like warzones.

Had the green-wannabees taken the poor into account, had the government of China taken the poor into account, had the companies involved taken their employees into account, perhaps the process might have been slowed and developed in a way that did not destroy the surrounding land. But noooooo, the greenies had to get what they wanted when they wanted it, and the government and the company had to get their money...

So I think the Pope is still, in the Catholic way, bringing people to repentance and metanoia.


23 posted on 07/12/2015 8:45:03 AM PDT by Chicory
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24 posted on 07/12/2015 8:46:11 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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Fellow Catholics, what are your thoughts?

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27 posted on 07/12/2015 9:50:55 AM PDT by NYer (Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy them. Mt 6:19)
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