Posted on 07/11/2015 2:54:01 PM PDT by ebb tide
The pope needs to read Divini Redemptoris.
Why doesn’t he walk the talk and give all the Church’s wealth to the poor. Maybe then I may actually care what he has to say.
Ping!
Which of these quotes is contrary to the Gospel?
Quotes from the Pope’s speech:
1. “This system is by now intolerable: farmworkers find it intolerable, laborers find it intolerable, communities find it intolerable, people find it intolerable ... The earth itself ... also finds it intolerable.”
2. “And behind all this pain, death and destruction there is the stench of what Basil of Caesarea, one of the church’s first theologians, called ‘the dung of the devil.’ An unfettered pursuit of money rules. That is the dung of the devil.”
3. “Working for a just distribution of the fruits of the earth and human labor is not mere philanthropy. It is a moral obligation. For Christians, the responsibility is even greater: it is a commandment.”
4. “It is not enough to let a few drops fall whenever the poor shake a cup which never runs over by itself.”
5. “I humbly ask forgiveness, not only for the offenses of the Church herself, but also for crimes committed against the native peoples during the so-called conquest of America.”
6. “The new colonialism takes on different faces. At times it appears as the anonymous influence of mammon: corporations, loan agencies, certain ‘free trade’ treaties, and the imposition of measures of ‘austerity’ which always tighten the belt of workers and the poor.”
7. “Our common home is being pillaged, laid waste and harmed with impunity. Cowardice in defending it is a grave sin. We see with growing disappointment how one international summit after another takes place without any significant result.”
8. Pope Francis also called the recent persecution of Christians, a “genocide.”
“Today we are dismayed to see how in the Middle East and elsewhere in the world many of our brothers and sisters are persecuted, tortured and killed for their faith in Jesus. This too needs to be denounced: in this third world war, waged piecemeal, which we are now experiencing, a form of genocide — and I stress the world genocide — is taking place, and it must end.”
The Pope said he’s often asked why he focuses so intently on what some Christians call the “least and the lost.”
Read the Gospel, Francis answered on Tuesday, specifically Matthew 25. In that passage, Jesus says that in the Last Days, Christians will be asked whether they fed the hungry, clothed the naked, visited the sick.
“This is the heart of the Gospel,” the Pope said.
Quotes 1, 2, 3, 5, 6, and 7.
Any other stupid questions?
Calling them “stupid” won’t do. Tell why? Have you read Pope Leo’s encyclical on Rerum Novarum? or are you simply circulating hit pieces pulled off the blogs?
As a practicing Roman Catholic I feel I need to remind everyone that this institution has had all kinds of bad popes and when they forget the admonition “My Kingdom Is Not Of This World” .This church gets into all sorts of trouble. But survives.
These meandering homilys of This pope on temporal matters diffuse any theologic message Pope Francis offers. Snowballs should be thrown at those pointy hat supporters of his as well as opposition clearly expressed to those meanderings on any visit Francis may make here.
It was only your question that I claimed to be stupid.
I challenge you to support any of the quotes I rejected with quotes from the Gospel.
This pope is an asshole, pure and simple. He sure as hell is no John Paul.
I would think Pope Leo the Great and Thomas Aquinas know more about the Gospel than you and I. But here’s Pope Leo with scriptural references. The footnotes have been omitted.
From Pope Leo The Great
Rerum Novarum Para.22
Private ownership, as we have seen, is the natural right of man, and to exercise that right, especially as members of society, is not only lawful, but absolutely necessary. “It is lawful,” says St. Thomas Aquinas, “for a man to hold private property; and it is also necessary for the carrying on of human existence.””
But if the question be asked: How must one’s possessions be used? - the Church replies without hesitation in the words of the same holy Doctor: “Man should not consider his material possessions as his own, but as common to all, so as to share them without hesitation when others are in need. Whence the Apostle with, ‘Command the rich of this world... to offer with no stint, to apportion largely.’”
True, no one is commanded to distribute to others that which is required for his own needs and those of his household; nor even to give away what is reasonably required to keep up becomingly his condition in life, “for no one ought to live other than becomingly.”
But, when what necessity demands has been supplied, and one’s standing fairly taken thought for, it becomes a duty to give to the indigent out of what remains over. “Of that which remaineth, give alms.” It is a duty, not of justice (save in extreme cases), but of Christian charity - a duty not enforced by human law. But the laws and judgments of men must yield place to the laws and judgments of Christ the true God, who in many ways urges on His followers the practice of almsgiving - ‘It is more blessed to give than to receive”; and who will count a kindness done or refused to the poor as done or refused to Himself - “As long as you did it to one of My least brethren you did it to Me.”
To sum up, then, what has been said: Whoever has received from the divine bounty a large share of temporal blessings, whether they be external and material, or gifts of the mind, has received them for the purpose of using them for the perfecting of his own nature, and, at the same time, that he may employ them, as the steward of God’s providence, for the benefit of others. “He that hath a talent,” said St. Gregory the Great, “let him see that he hide it not; he that hath abundance, let him quicken himself to mercy and generosity; he that hath art and skill, let him do his best to share the use and the utility hereof with his neighbor.”
Pope Leo the Great is Pope Leo I.
Rerum Novarum was issued by Pope Leo XIII.
Rerum Novarum is the antithesis of Francis’s call for socialism. Your very quote proves it.
Of course not. There’s no word of casting doubt, much less erasing other sins. Nor is there an issue of mortal sin but simply an urgent need to take the message of charity seriously. Did one Wall Street banker go to jail over the Lehman Bros crash of 2003-2004? Was Soros ever prosecuted over his currency manipulations: pain,death, and destruction? Hillary Clinton’s $100,000 overnight win in a cattle futures investment of $`1000? Silicon Valley Masters of the Universe? Saudi Royalty? Dubai emirs while thousands of third world workers get housed in prison-like conditions? It’s worse in South America where corruption and graft is endemic.
Francis certainly is trying to erase the definition of sins and also making a mockery of the Sixth Commandment with his SinNods.
"But it did me good, so much good. Cardinal Kasper has for many years advocated a change in the Church’s teaching on the reception of Holy Communion by the divorced and “remarried” and the book in question is Mercy: The Essence of the Gospel and the Key to the Christian Life, advocates many gravely problematic positions, which underlie his advocacy for such a change."
We still have annulment and the matter is being studied. Wh not wait for the Synod and not jump to conclusions.
What needs to be studied about annulment? To abuse that definition even further by falsely declaring even more valid marriages to be invalid?
We’ve already been through one Synod. Everybody now knows what Francis, Kasper, Baldiserri, etc. have up their sleeves. Even the African bishops know it and they are preparing a counterattack.
Again, you need to understand that this is not about degrading marriage but accepting solidarity with the fallen by bringing them into the faith.
http://www.catholicnews.com/data/stories/cns/1400852.htm
How do you go about bringing unrepentant sinners, living in a state of mortal sin, into the faith unless you demand that they “Sin no more”?
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